White Britons: Minority Status

Plus the world is globalising, I doubt we will never have the option to import.

Until its to expensive to transport the stuff.

We are more vulnerable now as a society than ever before we all rely on JIT inventories and globalistion for most of our goods and food we consume.

Scary stuff it would not take much for the wheels to full off.
 
Until its to expensive to transport the stuff.

We are more vulnerable now as a society than ever before we all rely on JIT inventories and globalistion for most of our goods and food we consume.

Scary stuff it would not take much for the wheels to full off.

If it gets more expensive. By expensive I mean very expensive.
 
Africa is not important today.

I repeat, the world population is exploding but what would YOU (as a prime minister) do about it?

Nothing.

So what is the point of this thread? no point.

(As a PM) I stop sending aid to foreign countries. Create a sustainable indigenous population and the reform of the financial system. Get our people back into hard skill labour - nevermind all the energy wasted in the fashion industry etc. We create the next gen tech for our own - not for export. A nation is for our nation - not for private business. And so it goes....
 
(As a PM) I stop sending aid to foreign countries. Create a sustainable indigenous population and the reform of the financial system. Get our people back into hard skill labour - nevermind all the energy wasted in the fashion industry etc. We create the next gen tech for our own - not for export. A nation is for our nation - not for private business. And so it goes....

If you want tech, it isn't going to need hard skilled labour. I've seen factories, basically manned by robots and a few people for a car company that makes safety electronics for cars.

Unless you mean highly skilled labour, not hard labour as i just interpreted. Confusingly worded.

The UK should do whatever it can do best(I.E make the most from), coming from a economics perspective.
 
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I said, I believe if push comes to shove, hydroponics can solve this.

Fair point. But...open space for general wellbeing and recreation is also important. There may be scope for food sustainability but preserving nature should be as important. This is where IMO brownfield developments should take presidence over greeenbelt encroachment. Something that is not being done effectively the world over.
 
Plus you don't understand economics, if you can do some thing else with your time, that's worth more than farming of course you can import.

Kid, don't come at me with your school-taught, orthodox economics.

Any country that is not fully sufficient in terms of food is open to blackmail from the countries that it imports food from. Britian aided in the starvation blockade of Germany in WW1 and this was a major reason why Germany wanted economic autarky in WW2 and wanted Ukraines agricultural basis.

Obviously because you have food so easily right now, you would not understand having a foreign power deteremining whether you ate or not.
 
London is not the South of England though is it?

It is a urban conurbation in the south east of England, and the reason it has a desalination plant is due to various things including population density, but not forgeting London's biggest issue, leakage in it's largely victorian water and sewage system. Cheaper to build a desalination plant than create major disruption and billions of pounds worth of investment in restructuring and rebuilding the Capital's sewage and water system.

The South of England as a whole is not overpopulated to any degree, certainly not when you compare it to the northern conurbations, both East and West.

I missed your post there.

At no point did I say London was the SE of England but, I see your point about London. As one has to take into consideration the commuting area and the traffic 100 miles outside of the M25 the impact of London does have a substantial impact on the whole of SE England.
 
Kid, don't come at me with your school-taught, orthodox economics.

Any country that is not fully sufficient in terms of food is open to blackmail from the countries that it imports food from. Britian aided in the starvation blockade of Germany in WW1 and this was a major reason why Germany wanted economic autarky in WW2 and wanted Ukraines agricultural basis.

Obviously because you have food so easily right now, you would not understand having a foreign power deteremining whether you ate or not.

Not school taught, but adam smith taught ;) which happens to be taught in schools...

But anyway this why globalisation is important, if do become integrated wars become less common which is generally good. Protectionism, now that starts wars for resources, when country wants resources that another country has, they might start a war. However if we had free markets they would trade.
 
If you want tech, it isn't going to need hard skilled labour. I've seen factories, basically manned by robots and a few people for a car company that makes safety electronics for cars.

OK, I meant highly skilled labour, so we can make (almost completely) fully automated car factories. We need to keep our agricultural land but we could import (just not be dependent on it). We would create the next gen tech which would make all the leaked Western technology of the 20th Century (nuke weapons) redundant.

Maybe then we get to live on our tiny little island without people telling us we should turn it over to everyone else.
 
I have been reffering to the South of England and those stats are for the UK and vastly distort the population demographic. Therefor are irrelevant to my point.

Well then so is the article you gave as support as it refers only to the UK.

The facts are that the South East has relatively high density due to the metropolitan area of London, however the South and South West especially are the lowest in the UK for population density, so if you remove the metropolitan region of London, as you should because it is classed as a region on it's own then the South of England has lower than average density than the rest of England. The North of England has a greater density than the South of England.

So your point is largely irrelevant to begin with as outside of London, Population densities across multiple regions, such as South East/ South West, East/West Midlands and North East/West are roughly one tenth of that of the Capital.
 
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If you want tech, it isn't going to need hard skilled labour. I've seen factories, basically manned by robots and a few people for a car company that makes safety electronics for cars.

we need less robots and more real jobs for people the only winners with robots are the shareholders and increased profits.

Jobs for all would be much better for society.
 
I assume that all of you who are experts in economics and politics are making efforts to form your own political party? Or are you just moaning on the Internet?
 
OK, I meant highly skilled labour, so we can make (almost completely) fully automated car factories. We need to keep our agricultural land but we could import (just not be dependent on it). We would create the next gen tech which would make all the leaked Western technology of the 20th Century (nuke weapons) redundant.

Maybe then we get to live on our tiny little island without people telling us we should turn it over to everyone else.

I don't think we can fully automate car factories yet, but the electronics pcbs can be, it was quite amazing to see these machines place so many surface mounted components on boards very very quickly. But I think the time will come, where a lot can be automated, so we should not pin our hopes on manufacturing reducing unemployment for long term.

But yes, we have specialise in things that can make money, and that's basically things that other countries can't do as good.
 
integrated wars become less common which is generally good. Protectionism, now that starts wars for resources, when country wants resources that another country has, they might start a war. However if we had free markets they would trade.

That's garbage. We have unpopular monarchies who rule the Arab (oil) world right now. Now some of them are being overthrown and the new governments (if they were genuinely Islamist) could decide to stop selling their oil to the West.

Would you or your PM sit there while your life blood is denied? In this case, integration leads to war. You will not accept a decrease in your lifestyle by taking the energy hit. You want food and hot water 24/7.

Now China is the rising energy monster, the world population is rising and oil stocks are declining, things are going to get very bad short of some catastrophe.
 
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