White Britons: Minority Status

[jumpy]

Any country that is not fully sufficient in terms of food is open to blackmail from the countries that it imports food from. Britian aided in the starvation blockade of Germany in WW1 and this was a major reason why Germany wanted economic autarky in WW2 and wanted Ukraines agricultural basis.

Obviously because you have food so easily right now, you would not understand having a foreign power deteremining whether you ate or not.

The fact that Hitler was a psychotic paranoid megalomaniac (just like Stalin), with a penchant for having those who were deemed 'inferior', killed, or used as slaves because that was his warped vision of the just and natural order of the right of the german nation to rule, never comes into it then.

Perhaps I'm confusing with another poster... but, for future reference, the Soviet union annexed half of europe because neither Britain (worn down by 5 years of war and privation) nor the United States (who in their leaders naivety couldn't conceive of the ussr harbouring such evil designs) had the resources or the unity to stand up to the soviet union and Stalin's assertion that the blood debt of the Soviets in taking the brunt of Hitler's fighting war, was most of eastern europe.
Churchill understood this, and by the time the war was over, so did the USA, why else did our two nations spend the next 50 years fighting wars by proxy against communism and building up huge nuclear arsenals capable of destroying the world?

But that's the trouble with history, when, like Hitler (and Stalin) you manipulate the facts to suit an ideology that justifies some of the worst of humanities behaviour. Bit like racism really.

Honestly some of this thread has been truly lolworthy, and insidiously correct at the same time; on the one hand as a white englishman I find some aspects of race and immigration worrying, then I hear some of the 'rationale' spouted here and I remember that the real danger is in how we choose to deal with these important issues.

Some of you ought to try living abroad, see how many brown people there are to be scared of then where whites truly are a minority... lol you'd all have seizures and fall down foaming at the mouth and have to be carried in out of the midday sun

 

[Guile]

Aye look at the number abusing/using it also having paid nothing towards it.

double edged sword and I would suggest more takers that givers.

+10

What people run the West?

If you are really unaware of who runs your own country, you really need to wake up and do some thinking for yourself.

P.S. they won't mention it in the BBC

No, protectionism would just make things less efficient. China has control of a lot of rare earth metals, what happen if we could not trade with them for example?

I heard about the rare earth bubble some time back that was exposed as a fraud. What does China actually have that we need?

 

[Stag]

Only this week the Marvin King urged China to accept more imports to help ease the global financial crisis. Has he got it wrong?

King of the paranoid androids?

 

[Biohazard]

Does the population density matter when we have to import so much of our food?

In terms of we're "full", yes. Because we aren't. And if food is our marker for full, we have overspilled beyond our self sustaining capacity with our own kindred significantly let alone any immigrants. To blame Johnny Foreigner for these problems, as was the initial proposition, is more stupid than eating dog ****.

Food security is a real issue however.

 

[UK-AL05]

+10



If you are really unaware of who runs your own country, you really need to wake up and do some thinking for yourself.

P.S. they won't mention it in the BBC




I heard about the rare earth bubble some time back that was exposed as a fraud. What does China actually have that we need?

Rare earth minerals that are used in electronics.

 

[weescott]

King of the paranoid androids?

haha. I meant Mervyn King. It's late ok?

 

[Stag]

If you are really unaware of who runs your own country, you really need to wake up and do some thinking for yourself.

P.S. they won't mention it in the BBC

You're saying they're not Western? In my opinion the people that run this country are the boards of the corporations and banks. Are they not Western then? Who do you think runs the West?

 

[Castiel]

You said the UK not England. I was referring to SE of England as a part of the UK.

This thread is about Britons. Not English.

I noted that.

However, much of Scotland is unihabited for geographic reasons, it being inacessable. If you extrapolated usable land then you will see that outside London and the major Conurbations in the North/Scotland/Midlands, population density is actually below the UK average.


The fact that we have several highly industrialised and urbanised population centres in the UK skews
the statistics for a demographic based purely on the South Of England.


The fact is that the South of England excl London is not overpopulated and much of it has a lower
density than the EU average. I live in Wiltshire, smack bank in the middle of what is considered the South of England including Swindon it has a population density half of the UK overall.



You'll be interested to know that I actually think the World is overpopulated, however that is because of Land, but resources and sustainability.

 

[Stag]

In terms of we're "full", yes. Because we aren't. And if food is our marker for full, we have overspilled beyond our self sustaining capacity with our own kindred significantly let alone any immigrants. To blame Johnny Foreigner for these problems, as was the initial proposition, is more stupid than eating dog ****.

Food security is a real issue however.

You don't have to blame Johnny Foreigner for the issue but you can see that high levels of immigration are counter productive to solving that particular problem.

 

[Stag]

I noted that.

However, much of Scotland is unihabited for geographic reasons, it being inacessable. If you extrapolated usable land then you will see that outside London and the major Conurbations in the North/Scotland/Midlands, population density is actually below the average.

The fact that we have several highly industrialised and urbanised population centres in the UK skews the statistics for a demographic based purely on the South Of England.


The fact is that the South of England excl London is not overpopulated and much of it has a lower density thanthe EU average.

It's overpopulated in the sense no one can afford housing and there is a shortage of affordable rental property.

 

[UK-AL05]

It's overpopulated in the sense no one can afford housing and there is a shortage of affordable rental property.

Because of an artificial lack of supply not lack of land to place them on.

 

[Guile]

Only this week the Marvin King urged China to accept more imports to help ease the global financial crisis. Has he got it wrong?

Don't know who Marvin King is. US has a debt to China which they can NEVER pay back without printing obscene amounts of currency. China knows this and when the US defaults, China will want military/econmic assets.

the Soviet union annexed half of europe because neither Britain (worn down by 5 years of war and privation) nor the United States (who in their leaders naivety couldn't conceive of the ussr harbouring such evil designs) had the resources or the unity to stand up to the soviet union and Stalin's assertion that the blood debt of the Soviets in taking the brunt of Hitler's fighting war, was most of eastern europe.

Everybody would have been better off if they let Hitler and Stalin go at it alone. Churchill knew what a beast the USSR/Stalin was. I'm sure all those millions who died in gulags thank you for your sympathies though.

 

[d_brennen]

The fact that Hitler was a psychotic paranoid megalomaniac (just like Stalin), with a penchant for having those who were deemed 'inferior', killed, or used as slaves because that was his warped vision of the just and natural order of the right of the german nation to rule, never comes into it then.

Perhaps I'm confusing with another poster... but, for future reference, the Soviet union annexed half of europe because neither Britain (worn down by 5 years of war and privation) nor the United States (who in their leaders naivety couldn't conceive of the ussr harbouring such evil designs) had the resources or the unity to stand up to the soviet union and Stalin's assertion that the blood debt of the Soviets in taking the brunt of Hitler's fighting war, was most of eastern europe.
Churchill understood this, and by the time the war was over, so did the USA, why else did our two nations spend the next 50 years fighting wars by proxy against communism and building up huge nuclear arsenals capable of destroying the world?

But that's the trouble with history, when, like Hitler (and Stalin) you manipulate the facts to suit an ideology that justifies some of the worst of humanities behaviour. Bit like racism really.

Honestly some of this thread has been truly lolworthy, and insidiously correct at the same time; on the one hand as a white englishman I find some aspects of race and immigration worrying, then I hear some of the 'rationale' spouted here and I remember that the real danger is in how we choose to deal with these important issues.

Some of you ought to try living abroad, see how many brown people there are to be scared of then where whites truly are a minority... lol you'd all have seizures and fall down foaming at the mouth and have to be carried in out of the midday sun

Quoted for absolute truth. Some of the Daily Mail mouth breathers in here are lolworthy. Immigration isn't killing Britain, apathy and some form of divine right to wealth is.

You want jobs? Get on your bike or wait for the rest of the world to eat your breakfast

 

[asim18]

The fact that Hitler was a psychotic paranoid megalomaniac (just like Stalin), with a penchant for having those who were deemed 'inferior', killed, or used as slaves because that was his warped vision of the just and natural order of the right of the german nation to rule, never comes into it then.

Perhaps I'm confusing with another poster... but, for future reference, the Soviet union annexed half of europe because neither Britain (worn down by 5 years of war and privation) nor the United States (who in their leaders naivety couldn't conceive of the ussr harbouring such evil designs) had the resources or the unity to stand up to the soviet union and Stalin's assertion that the blood debt of the Soviets in taking the brunt of Hitler's fighting war, was most of eastern europe.
Churchill understood this, and by the time the war was over, so did the USA, why else did our two nations spend the next 50 years fighting wars by proxy against communism and building up huge nuclear arsenals capable of destroying the world?

But that's the trouble with history, when, like Hitler (and Stalin) you manipulate the facts to suit an ideology that justifies some of the worst of humanities behaviour. Bit like racism really.

Honestly some of this thread has been truly lolworthy, and insidiously correct at the same time; on the one hand as a white englishman I find some aspects of race and immigration worrying, then I hear some of the 'rationale' spouted here and I remember that the real danger is in how we choose to deal with these important issues.

Some of you ought to try living abroad, see how many brown people there are to be scared of then where whites truly are a minority... lol you'd all have seizures and fall down foaming at the mouth and have to be carried in out of the midday sun

Quoted for absolute truth. Some of the Daily Mail mouth breathers in here are lolworthy. Immigration isn't killing Britain, apathy and some form of divine right to wealth is.

You want jobs? Get on your bike or wait for the rest of the world to eat your breakfast

100% agree with these posts. Especially the emboldened part.

 

[Guile]

You're saying they're not Western? In my opinion the people that run this country are the boards of the corporations and banks. Are they not Western then? Who do you think runs the West?

If that is the superficial view that you have taken of them, then I would advise you look deeper.

I could not state who they are because they are laws against free speech in this country.

 

[UK-AL05]

If that is the superficial view that you have taken of them, then I would advise you look deeper.

I could not state who they are because they are laws against free speech in this country.

I highly doubt there are laws against naming leaders, countries or companies.

 

[d_brennen]

If that is the superficial view that you have taken of them, then I would advise you look deeper.

I could not state who they are because they are laws against free speech in this country.

Go on... Free speech here as long as it's safe for work, or are "they" watching?

 

[Stag]

If that is the superficial view that you have taken of them, then I would advise you look deeper.

I could not state who they are because they are laws against free speech in this country.

The Rothschilds?

 

[Biohazard]

You don't have to blame Johnny Foreigner for the issue but you can see that high levels of immigration are counter productive to solving that particular problem.

Yes in the short term for areas of the UK anyway. Problem being it's still rather unlikely anything will be done either on the EU front before the other aforementioned crises if they are actioned at all.

 

[asim18]

If that is the superficial view that you have taken of them, then I would advise you look deeper.

I could not state who they are because they are laws against free speech in this country.

The Illuminati?