Unlawful arrest?

RomanNose · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:01

I just found this video, I notice some things quite obviously wrong with the video.
They cannot quote the law, they perform a stop and search for no apparent reason, they ask to turn the camera off when they are not obliged to and they arrest one of them because he does not have a receipt for a mobile phone he is carrying.

Also section one of the pace act says
"This section does not give a constable power to search a person or vehicle or anything in or on a vehicle unless he has reasonable grounds for suspecting that he will find stolen or prohibited articles".

I am not sure they even have the powers to stop and search as they seem to be PCSOs and there has to be at least one constable there, so GD do you think they were acting wrongfully?
How is he even allowed on the streets with such a lack of understand of the law? It's really disgusting that there are officers on the street who behave like this.

Ging3r · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:09

I think the guy with the camera should stop being such a PITA and stop looking for trouble

DAnDan · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:15

Ging3r said:
I think the guy with the camera should stop being such a PITA and stop looking for trouble

This, he brought it all on himself. If he wasn't being a colossal prat and looking for trouble, he wouldn't have got himself into the situation in the first place.

Amleto · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:19

DAnDan said:
This, he brought it all on himself. If he wasn't being a colossal prat and looking for trouble, he wouldn't have got himself into the situation in the first place.

two wrongs...

He is a colossal prat, but the guys in blue have no clue as well.

Von Smallhausen · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:20

Deliberately set out to cause trouble.

There is no law to prevent people filming the police though. Shameful that he can't quote sec 1 of PACE though. It really is bread and butter stuff.

RomanNose · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:20

DAnDan said:
This, he brought it all on himself. If he wasn't being a colossal prat and looking for trouble, he wouldn't have got himself into the situation in the first place.

The point is completely stupid.
1) There is a officer out on the street abusing his powers and does not know the law. He could be abusing his powers and performing unwarranted arrests right now..
2) Even if the guy is being a pita, he is legally allowed to be annoying and if you look, the police officers were waiting for him, do you expect him to abide by the requests of police officers even though they don't have the power to do so?

asim18 · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:21

Von Smallhausen said:
Deliberately set out to cause trouble.

Totally agree. It's clear the police were looking for trouble, and they clearly started it....

First they call him over, then they say it's illegal to record, then they accuse him of theft. I see this sort of crap from police all the time.

Clueless idiots causing more trouble than good, the pair of them. I mean do you think he honestly thought the camera was stolen? I don't believe that for a minute.

Richie · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:24

All parties in the wrong TBH.

The "filmer" for just being a fud and quite obviously engineering a situation where he is confronted by the cop and PCSO.

The cop for backing himself into a corner where he left himself nowhere to go without looking like an idiot by quoting things he has no clue about.

The PCSO who should have said sod all as he didnt help the situation and helped place his cop colleague into a sticky position by spouting crap.

RomanNose · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:24

Von Smallhausen said:
Deliberately set out to cause trouble.

There is no law to prevent people filming the police though. Shameful that he can't quote sec 1 of PACE though. It really is bread and butter stuff.

I am more concerned that he was arrested for suspicion of theft when there is absolutely no reason..

Von Smallhausen · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:29

Not the way I would have gone about things but there you go.

Unless he knew something I have missed on the video, I am struggling to find grounds to arrest on suspicion of theft.

Moothead2 · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:30

I can't believe people are sticking up for the police here :rolleyes:

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Efour · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:37

Idiot policeman , absolute complete idiot. Waste of tax payers money, he should be called in and asked wtf he is thinking and try preventing some real criminal actions.

Combined with the idiot bloke. How can any policeman be so thick to fall for this baiting.. cannot believe his complete stupidity.. do you have a recipt? Im arresting you on suspicion of theft.. Moron.

nikeair94 · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:38

I feel as if everyone in this video is an idiot.

Rexxar · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:39

The guy and his mate with the camera, what a pair of colossal morons.

Get a ****** job!

asim18 · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:42

robz21 said:
The guy and his mate with the camera, what a pair of colossal morons.

Get a ****** job!

Maybe they can become pushbike cops? Then they'll be moronic cops just like the ones in the video

adscan · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:44

copper dealt with that all wrong...nothing more to say.

TechFunctions · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:47

Idiots

doofer · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:52

The Police in that video created the problems they had themselves by not knowing the Laws, the guy filming is simply exercising his Rights, sadly far too many Police Officers in the UK are also as ignorant and badly trained, but don't let that stop them going out and filling Quotas and obtaining Revenue. I can't wait for the 'Nothing to hide' Brigade to show up and try and support the Police in that Video

franco_22 · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:54

Stuff like this really makes me hate coppers, I used to have a lot of respect for the force but ever since I was completely ignored and had mine and my partners time and money wasted because a Sargent and constable were unable to perform their most basic duties in a moment where I was significantly in distress, never again.

Luke · 22 Oct 2011 at 20:57

I'm normally all for sticking up for the police, but those two aren't fit to be police officers.
They need to be hauled over the coals for that behaviour and if they are to continue as police officers need training on the laws they are supposedly enforcing.

As annoying as the bloke getting arrested sounded, he did not act unreasonably and was asking perfectly acceptable questions which the officers should have been able to answer effortlessly.