Poll: What is your position on religion/god?

Glaucus · 24 Oct 2011 at 12:48

There is ZERO proof they came about randomly. You really can't say that.

BunnyKillBot · 24 Oct 2011 at 12:49

dave_beast said:
Atheist, don't believe in cults, sorry.

You don't believe in cults? They are hardly unicorns, there are quit a few good examples, you should check them out on wiki.

Oh wait, not what you meant? Try again.

cult [kuhlt] Show IPA
noun
1.
a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2.
an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3.
the object of such devotion.
4.
a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5.
Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.

Notice how only number 1 is of or pertaining to religion? Thats 4 definitions you expertly ignore. Good job scientist, good job.

kash786 · 24 Oct 2011 at 12:51

RDM said:
I know, I would be shocked too when admitting to believing in a religion based on a religion based on another religion...

We believe Islam as the final word of God..Christianity/Judaism are part of Islam..

RDM · 24 Oct 2011 at 12:53

AcidHell2 said:
There is ZERO proof they came about randomly. You really can't say that.

I believe it was mathmatical analysis, much like the (debunked)irreducible complexity that lies at the heart of ID. As I said, not my strong point and quite complex when first brought up.

But if you want to give them both equal weight, feel free. It makes very little difference to me.

easyrider · 24 Oct 2011 at 12:55

I think you both need to look closer and deeper than ID.

ID is meaningless when looking at the bigger Picture....ID is perception of Man and evolution is too.

A hammer is a hammer and its useless unless it is applied to make meaning...This meaning is constructed by perception. Just like anything else in the universe.

You're both arguing nothingness!

RDM · 24 Oct 2011 at 12:57

kash786 said:
We believe Islam as the final word of God..Christianity/Judaism are part of Islam..

Despite the fact that Judaism pre-dates Islam by at least 1000 years and Christianity by at least 600 years you still see Christianity and Judaism as part of Islam? More correctly it would be Islam and Christianity that are offshoots of Judaism surely?

MisChief · 24 Oct 2011 at 12:57

Umm.. Shouldn't there be Catholic on the list as well?

BunnyKillBot · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:00

MisChief said:
Umm.. Shouldn't there be Catholic on the list as well?

Despite some funny ideas about transmutation and the wine becoming the blood, catholics are christians ya know.

kash786 · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:00

RDM said:
Despite the fact that Judaism pre-dates Islam by at least 1000 years and Christianity by at least 600 years you still see Christianity and Judaism as part of Islam? More correctly it would be Islam and Christianity that are offshoots of Judaism surely?

As I just stated, we believe Judaism, Christianity to be part of God's message, yes, Islam is the final piece, the final word.

This is what I believe as a Muslim, I respect all religions.

RDM · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:02

kash786 said:
As I just stated, we believe Judaism, Christianity to be part of God's message, yes, Isalm is the final piece, the final word.

I know that is what you believe, but the historical record would suggest otherwise...

kash786 said:
This is what I believe as a Muslim, I respect all religions.

The Koran disagrees with you. It has very little in the way of nice things to say about religions that are not of the Book.

easyrider · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:03

I'm not any on the list...

I'm still searching

Can we have this as an option please?

Thanks

RDM · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:03

MisChief said:
Umm.. Shouldn't there be Catholic on the list as well?

First item on the list, Christianity.

deuse · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:05

BunnyKillBot said:
Despite some funny ideas about transmutation and the wine becoming the blood, catholics are christians ya know.

All Catholics are Christians, but all Christians are not Catholics

There should be a Catholic option...

Glaucus · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:07

RDM said:
I believe it was mathmatical analysis, much like the (debunked)irreducible complexity that lies at the heart of ID. As I said, not my strong point and quite complex when first brought up.

But if you want to give them both equal weight, feel free. It makes very little difference to me.

Statistics does not prove mechanisms it can't.

RDM · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:13

deuse said:
There should be a Catholic option...

Then we would need an Anglican option, a Methodist option, a Presbytarian option and so on and so forth. Why bother when "Christian" pretty much covers it?

TFleming · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:16

Interesting statistic for Agnostics. I wonder if it is due to lack of knowledge regarding evolution and surrounding topics.

Cosimo · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:17

deuse said:
All Catholics are Christians, but all Christians are not Catholics

There should be a Catholic option...

Then there should also be an option for the Protestants, Anglicans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Baptists, Pentecostals, Orthodox and all the other Christian denominations.

RDM · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:17

TFleming said:
Interesting statistic for Agnostics. I wonder if it is due to lack of knowledge regarding evolution and surrounding topics.

No, it is more the fact that if I am being intellectually honest I cannot categorically say that some form of god does not exist. I am relatively happy that evolution probably covers how species developed.

TommyV · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:18

Jedi.

easyrider · 24 Oct 2011 at 13:18

We need theism on the list

You can't have Deism on the list without theism

The two are not the same.

Poll: What is your position on religion/god?

What are your religious beliefs?

Christian

Muslim

Jewish

Buddhist

Hindu

Sikh

Deist

Agnostic

Pantheist

Atheist