Nokia Windows 7 Phones

The Lumia 800 looks pretty striking. Non too impressed with the resolution and CPU though.

Thing is though it's not like Android which requires a dualcore cpu to run remotely smoothly. Even with this cpu, the ui is smooother than the GSII
 
Long game? Not competing on specs isn't playing the long game, it's birthing new products into instant obsolescence.

When did Android's performance issues start to become a boon? The only reason dual-core processor adoption has taken off is because that platform needs it; Android runs terribly on single-core chips. The flagship devices for every other platform (bar iOS) run single-core chips:

  • WebOS - Pre 3, 1.4GHz
  • Bada - Wave 3, 1.4GHz
  • WP7.5 Mango - Lumia 800 - Titan, 1.4GHz
  • Blackberry - Torch 9810, 1.2GHz
  • Meego - N9, 1GHz
  • Symbian Anna/Belle - 700, 1GHz - N8, 628MHz
  • Symbian S40 - Asha 301 - 303, 1GHz
In the case of the iPhone, Apple managed to grow an industry leading App Store off the iPhone 3GS (600MHz) and the iPhone 4 (800MHz). The 4S has only just launched, is packing a dual-core SoC at 800MHz and... the difference is barely noticeable (as you will see from the number of people saying it's not worth going from iPhone 4 to iPhone 4S as it's only a minor improvement).

Android is the only platform driving dual-core adoption. The harsh, unfortunate truth is that multi-core processors are being adopted on Android because it's the only way to provide a suitable user experience that is competitive with the other platforms.
 
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Thing is though it's not like Android which requires a dualcore cpu to run remotely smoothly. Even with this cpu, the ui is smooother than the GSII

Except for the fact that Android doesn't need a dual core cpu to run smoothly :confused:
 
My desire is a 1GHz single core and I've never had any performance issues at all, with Sense fully loaded, Cyanogenmod and Miui all installed. Absolutely brilliant phone.

The people questioning Androids ability to run on a single core - Have you ever owned an Android phone running on a single core?

Not to go off subject here so in regards to the 800...

The colours are off putting, childish and not very professional or slick (IMO). The all black is LOVELY. The design is also a break away from the traditional and I really do like it.

I also love the UI experience and have a feeling it's only a matter of time before I adopt a WP7 device. It's just a shame I'm in love with Android at this moment in time and with the release of ICS, there's no chance of me leaving yet.
 
I've heard there's high performance degradation on android. Good when new but gets slower with clutter
guess all the skins don't help either

not true on my SGS2 or my old desire - however if you install a dodgy app that may cause a performance hit
 
Fair point, well made, but for the 'target' audience who want a handset to reflect their individuality rather than 'blend in' the colours will be a massive selling point.

Good point. I suppose this phone goes places other phones don't really...
 
its not so much that android needs dual core or others don't, in my experience as a pretty heavy phone user but by no means an app power user I genuinely don't think any phone needs it.

Android however does seem to be spinning a bit into the world of the PC spec race, 1ghz! no 1.2ghz! 1.2ghz dual core! 512mb ram! OMG I wouldn't have a phone with less than 1gb ram! Etc. When I think the chances are for the vast vast majority of users it makes precisely no difference at all. Just like it does with computers. I can only assume its specs and saturation by options android has to put up in a sensible fight with apple.

Unless I'm playing a game for which my PC is practically custom built and rarely used (a-la dual core mobile phone processors, gigantic screens etc) I don't notice any real perceivable difference between my desktop, laptop with a low voltage cpu, my old netbook with an atom or my mac mini with its core2 underpinnings.

The only specs I would ever consider buying a phone on are camera (although thats quite subjective too), weight, size, memory capacity (as in storage not ram) and battery life.

oh and maybe screen size and resolution, I get that people like that although to state a personal point of view I think past 4" gets unweildy for the majority of "phone" tasks. I watch tv on my tv funnily enough.

Having used the 800 there ws no lag or slowdown, in fact for transitions between menus and scrolling etc it had my SGS2 well and trully beaten.

The OS felt iOS-ish in its fluidity and intuitiveness. Thats not to say I find iOS flawless, its just much much better integrated for a good out of the box experience and thats what I'm expecting to get from both the N9 and 800 tbh.

I just hope nokia don't get drowned in the building mobile e-peen wars. Who cares what the hardware is on paper if it works?
 
I just hope nokia don't get drowned in the building mobile e-peen wars. Who cares what the hardware is on paper if it works?

I only care about the hardware when it doesn't do what I want it to do - single core phones that I have seen thus far have stuttery video recording at 720p and no 1080p choice available. And low amounts of ram mean you cant have many web pages open without having to refresh them all the time.

I don't agree with mind numbing people that go out looking for specs when there is no need to.
 
I only care about the hardware when it doesn't do what I want it to do - single core phones that I have seen thus far have stuttery video recording at 720p and no 1080p choice available. And low amounts of ram mean you cant have many web pages open without having to refresh them all the time.

I don't agree with mind numbing people that go out looking for specs when there is no need to.

can't comment on the video recording but I'll take that, if you need 720p or 1080p then fair enough but I would suggest that the actual number of people who genuinely need that are pretty small.

The web page thing I do dispute though, my iphone 3gs was perfectly capable of having numerous pages open in the browser with out any slowdown. Although I expect I'll be told they weren't live ie updating.. who cares! I only have 1 set of eyes!
 
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