Should people on the dole have sky HD?

1LANCS said:
Yeah awesome idea, what about toiletries, gas, electric, water rates, what about clothes and stuff for interviews, phone line rental so employers can get in contact with you, what about bus fares, pet food, etc..

Dont tar everyone with the same brush. Sick of the idiotic attitudes a lot of people in this thread have, i was on the dole for a short while after having worked from when i left school, ive paid my way in taxes and i am begrudged a few luxuries on benefits because i am some sort of scum and how dare i have the gaul to take your hard earned taxes?
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Calm down, I've been on JSA too for awhile. Not saying cut the whole cash, but it's clear lots of it thrown away on alcohol, smoking.

What needs sorting out is the disability allowence abuse. So many people lie with these "tests" claiming they can't walk, and are thick as pig ****. There clever enough to answer maths/english questions wrong.
 
Anyone who drinks and/ or smokes and says they can't afford sky tv is talking ****.
As someone else pointed out, if she spent the £7 or so sky costs on a bottle of booze, or a packet of cancer sticks, no one would bat an eyelid.
 
1LANCS said:
Yeah awesome idea, what about toiletries, gas, electric, water rates, what about clothes and stuff for interviews, phone line rental so employers can get in contact with you, what about bus fares, pet food, etc..

Dont tar everyone with the same brush. Sick of the idiotic attitudes a lot of people in this thread have, i was on the dole for a short while after having worked from when i left school, ive paid my way in taxes and i am begrudged a few luxuries on benefits because i am some sort of scum and how dare i have the gaul to take your hard earned taxes?
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The system is not there to provide luxuries though, is it? It's there to provide essentials.

It's a safety net, not a way of life, which is what I think most have a problem with. Personally that's my issue - people who take the ****.

I am proud we live in a country which looks after it's most vulnerable citizens, including those who's circumstances change in such a way they're out of work.
 
Strife212 said:
The mind boggles.
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Because sky costs £6.80 a week & anybody in work (apart from the lowest of low wages - which in a different thread I've already said it should be increased) can afford it.

Anybody who drinks more than 2 pints a week or smokes 1 packet of fags a week can also afford sky - the people saying they work/parents both worked & cudn't afford sky is talking ********, they could afford it - but spent the money of different things (booze/fags/holidays/car/dvds/toys).

People need to get a grip & understand that sky is not an expensive thing, it's cheap entertainment for the cost.

You try keeping yourself entertained for £6.80 a week.
 
shoes said:
The system is not there to provide luxuries though, is it? It's there to provide essentials.

It's a safety net, not a way of life, which is what I think most have a problem with. Personally that's my issue - people who take the ****.

I am proud we live in a country which looks after it's most vulnerable citizens, including those who's circumstances change in such a way they're out of work.
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£6.80 a week is hardly a massive fund to spend on luxuries.

Now, if they smoked 40 a day, 8 beers a night then I'd agree with you - as people on low wages can't afford that.

Maybe more focus should be put on supporting people into work & making work more desirable for them.

Goto your local town centre at daytime for a days annual leave, look at the people out of work - it's depressing, they are not happy people.
 
shoes said:
The system is not there to provide luxuries though, is it? It's there to provide essentials.

It's a safety net, not a way of life, which is what I think most have a problem with. Personally that's my issue - people who take the ****.

I am proud we live in a country which looks after it's most vulnerable citizens, including those who's circumstances change in such a way they're out of work.
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I agree, just a shame not everyone makes the same distinction.
 
Westyfield2 said:
I'm all for giving everyone a roof over their heads and bread on their table... but if they can afford Sky HD then they're being given too much money.
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You think £30 a month to spend on entertainment for a women & children is too much money?

Ignoring that the women most likly recieves child maintance allowance x4 & pays for it out of that.
 
tbh this has two potential causes, neither of which are good.

1) benefits are excessive, allowing for a lifestyle greater than many working families can afford after essential needs are met.

2) benefits are paid at an appropriate level, but the recipient is spending the income inappropriately and failing to meet essential needs due to inappropriate luxury spending.

frankly, I don't like either option.
 
Dolph said:
tbh this has two potential causes, neither of which are good.

1) benefits are excessive, allowing for a lifestyle greater than many working families can afford after essential needs are met.

2) benefits are paid at an appropriate level, but the recipient is spending the income inappropriately and failing to meet essential needs due to inappropriate luxury spending.

frankly, I don't like either option.
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That pretty much sums it up. Why should anyones taxes be used to finance personal luxery items for other people through the benefits system?

It wasn't what it was designed to do, nor intended to do.
 
I think a voucher system would be an idea, but adminisrating such a scheme would have its costs.

I've just got a new job after 4 months on the dole, the thing that grinds my gears is that after 3 months my housing benefit got dropped leaving me with a short fall of about 70 quid. And then you get scutters that somehow manage to run a car and have sky, that have no intention of ever working.

I would never have sky anyway, as I have better things to spend money on, but it does make me angry.
 
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