Should people on the dole have sky HD?

On the point of food, I live on about £40 Month.

£10 a week.

Not bad food either. Fit in a roast dinner once a month, fajitas for about a week as dinner, sandwich for lunch, scrambled eggs on toast for breakfast. Spag bol gets me through about two weeks worth of dinner on top of this.... It's really not that hard. Lots of pasta with sauces...

500g Pasta - 30p
500g Passata - 25p
Small quantity of herbs - 5p

That'll create quite a few meals.. Then you just need something to add to it, probably a small amount of onion then, whatever you want, mushrooms, bacon, chicken, fish etc... It's really not hard to create a base pasta dish and add a small amount of veg and meat in....

kd
 
badcompany said:
what are they meant to watch all day freeview? Get real they need SKy to pass the time. Full package as well otherwise they will get bored.
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Anyone who's been job hunting, recently at least, should realise that finding a job is a full time job in itself. If you have time between 9 and 5.30 for watching TV etc. then you're not job hunting.

If you're not job hunting you shouldn't be entitled to benefit.

I'd much rather have centres where people who have been on JSA for more than six months clock in at 9 and clock out at half 5. In that time they are supervised in finding work. ANY work. ALL work. I couldn't give a money's if they don't like it, we've all worked poor jobs in our time (sainsburys, argos call centre, dominos, boots for me, for example) and it's good incentive to find a job you like.

No show = no benefit. Any time off for interviews approved before hand.
 
King Damager said:
On the point of food, I live on about £40 Month.

£10 a week.

Not bad food either. Fit in a roast dinner once a month, fajitas for about a week as dinner, sandwich for lunch, scrambled eggs on toast for breakfast. Spag bol gets me through about two weeks worth of dinner on top of this.... It's really not that hard. Lots of pasta with sauces...

500g Pasta - 30p
500g Passata - 25p
Small quantity of herbs - 5p

That'll create quite a few meals.. Then you just need something to add to it, probably a small amount of onion then, whatever you want, mushrooms, bacon, chicken, fish etc... It's really not hard to create a base pasta dish and add a small amount of veg and meat in....

kd
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Nice!

Good thing to like/love pasta is, very cheap, filling, and very tasty! :D
 
shoes said:
I was privately educated from the beginning of my schooling to the end - so saved you a few bob there.

I have no kids of my own - also saved you a few bob there.

I rarely use the health service, and obviously pay for my prescriptions.

I contribute to our infrastructure via fuel duty etc.

I also drink and smoke and pay a LOT of tax that way.

All of the local services are covered by the council tax I pay.

I have bupa cancer and serious illness care - so I won't be using the NHS when smoking does eventually get to me.

So what services am I using which you are paying for?

I agree that argument goes all the way to the top, but surely you would prefer people to make a contribution to society rather than just leech from it? I don't care that people on NMW pay almost no tax at all - they're still contributing as much as they can in their current employment and furthermore are not parasitically drawing money from the kitty which they don't need to. My problem lies with those who see it as absolutely fine to claim benefits for years on end and feel they have an entitlement to it just because the system says so.

I am morally obliged to provide for myself, and I do. As do you. The argument here is about those who don't.
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Swifty55 said:
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Informative work there. Hes right, he contributes a fair bit to the system. Even if he doesn't pay his way completely, he is doing the best he can. He is what we call "trying" and "contributing".

No one here is saying that your salary should dictate your value to society. We are only suggesting that contributing nothing and taking from the system is a pretty ***** thing to do.

p.s. Having children doesn't count as a job or contribution to society.
 
fez said:
See, people like you are the issue. I can't spend £30 on food for 4 people for a week. Yes you can, quite easily. You just might have to.... think about it. You know, that thing that people do when they can't afford to just get whatever the hell they want.

If you can afford sky on the dole and you are not starving then there is an issue. The issue being that you are getting too much.

My parents both worked bloody hard their whole life and we never got anything like what children today have. We never had a games console, never had more than terrestrial tv, never got new clothes apart from christmas and birthdays. We ate proper food that my mum had cooked from scratch and she spent £80 every 2 weeks and we ate really well.

Its not a case of can't, its a case of can't be bothered to do it. If you can't cook good from scratch then ******* learn. If you can't afford to buy your children the latest trainers or phone then don't. Its a really simple system.
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Who said I had kids?.,

I work and have no children, all I'm saying is that to eat decently (fresh fruit & veg) £30 a week is not enough for a family of four moron.

So your mom spent 40 every two weeks for four was that? & how long ago was that exactly?, 20 years? heard of inflation?

Why do you keep saying "you are getting too much"? I don't recieve any help from the government & pay for private healthcare :rolleyes:
 
avec said:
Sky is an expensive luxury.

Whilst I don't think anyone should be denied the choice to spend the money how they want to, it's still an expensive luxury that a great deal of people can't afford.

That such a high proportion of the lower class have Sky subscriptions shows something wrong with our society and the way benefits are dished out (not that we didn't know about that already for other reasons.
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Anybody who works & smokes/drinkes or earns more than 15k per year can afford sky-HD.

If you can't perhaps they should drink/smoke less (like they say about the benifit people) & use there money correctly.

I don't have sky because it's crap, but £30 is what, 1.5 hours work :rolleyes:
 
They're getting benefits regardless of how it's spent, some are just being horrible for no good reason, why would anyone want to deprive someone of entertainment exactly, the world can be depressing enough as it is.
 
fez said:
Informative work there. Hes right, he contributes a fair bit to the system. Even if he doesn't pay his way completely, he is doing the best he can. He is what we call "trying" and "contributing".

No one here is saying that your salary should dictate your value to society. We are only suggesting that contributing nothing and taking from the system is a pretty ***** thing to do.

p.s. Having children doesn't count as a job or contribution to society.
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What if those children do get jobs, become scientists?

Not every child from a council house/family on benfits ends up also that way.

Where did these kids come from, parents in or out of work?, benifits didn't exist forever - so parents a few generations ago dropped the ball somewhere to start this mess.
 
spudbynight said:
How do you know what is being sacrificed elsewhere to pay for it?

SKY HD is available from £30.25 a month. That is only £7.56 a week in a four week month.

What else can you get for that money? Would you begrudge someone on the dole a single ticket a week to the cinema (without snacks)? What about two pints in the pub?

Do you really think people on the dole should be given just enough to feed themselves and keep warm?
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Exactly my point, it's between £6/7 a week.

Would you rarther them purchase a bottle of wine a week?, or ONE BOX of fags?.

Seriously, the people in this thread are ****** stupid
 
Johnnytoxic said:
Great idea.

universal food vouchers.
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Yeah awesome idea, what about toiletries, gas, electric, water rates, what about clothes and stuff for interviews, phone line rental so employers can get in contact with you, what about bus fares, pet food, etc..

Dont tar everyone with the same brush. Sick of the idiotic attitudes a lot of people in this thread have, i was on the dole for a short while after having worked from when i left school, ive paid my way in taxes and i am begrudged a few luxuries on benefits because i am some sort of scum and how dare i have the gaul to take your hard earned taxes?
 
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