**The Official Nokia Lumia 800 Thread***

That's RRP, give it a month or two if that and I'm sure it will fall in price.
Just look at android phone RRP and how much they actually sale for after a short period.

Payg sim locked is meant to be £400
 
Some camera samples look absolutely rubbish, and others look pretty awesome. It makes me wonder if there are some QC issues with early units or it's just incredibly sensitive to light, etc.
 
pingu666 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/03/nokia-lumia-800-review/

camera is behind ip4s and sgs2, even the titen slightly :/

may well go with the se arc s instead...
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The Titan has the same 8MP sensor as the iPhone 4S/SGS2 and a decent f2.2 lens. (Only the rubbish over sharpened jpgs from the HTC make it worse than those two :p)
In low light the 800 will be grainier due to Nokia preferring a higher shutter speed and the sensor is not as quite as sensitive.
White balance inconsistencies will probably be fixed with software update.

It's fine, we're not talking about a full on N8 replacement here.

I'm more worried about fuzzy pentile text :p
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I had a play with one of these today in a phone shop and my overall impression was that the OS outclasses the hardware in every respect. The black version looks horrid in person and the side buttons for the volume are a cheap tacky silver lumps that look like an after thought.

I had high hopes for this phone being a Nokia but I must say it's certainly no comparison to the likes of the N900 build. I'd strongly suggest to anyone thinking of buying of of these phones against other Windows 7 phones to check it out in person first before you had over any details/cash. :)
 
Journey said:
certainly no comparison to the likes of the N900 build.
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Different market, the 800 is a mid range/high volume phone. Once the price drops it'll be a great option.

pingu666 said:
the arc has the same sensor too :-)
would different camera software change the quality ?
or is it baked into the handsets firmware from OEM?
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Yep the Arc too! Although the jpg processing/compression is a little aggressive from Sony (baked into the firmware, it generates a 1-2MB jpg over the 3-4MB pics from the SGS2/iPhone 4S)
 
sarge78 said:
Different market, the 800 is a mid range/high volume phone. Once the price drops it'll be a great option.
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That's the problem, ONCE the price drops, at the moment it's priced like an Iphone and other high end devices, hardly going to give it a good start into the market.

If Microsoft and Nokia want to gain some market share wih this handset they need to push it from the get go with aggressive pricing, let people see and use the Windows Phone 7 eco system, I think a lot of folk would be pretty much hooked once they find out how good it can be.
 
englishpremier said:
Doesn't the Lumia have better optics than the other phones with the same sensor?
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Isn't Nokia using a custom 8.7MP sensor? http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/06/27/damian-dinning-on-nokia-n9-imaging/
It doesn't look as good in low light but does allow a larger 16:9 crop. I don't expect the lens to be significantly better than the rest either.
Nokia generally do less post processing and compress the jpg more (2-3MB for an 8MP shot from what I've seen) so they will look flatter.
 
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