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I went to Tunisia with my gf recently, and I'd imagine it was as western/touristy as Dubai, maybe less so.

Didn't have any problems whatsoever in Tunisia. Okay you get stared at, but that's about it. We didn't kiss or hold hands and my gf dressed moderately. If she didnt have her shoulders/legs covered we avoided visiting the big mosques. We travelled down to El Djem and were treated really well.

We just got on with our holiday and accepted their way. It's called respect.
 
maustin said:
Personally I think Dubai is a big chavtastic display of inappropriate wealth - crude, without character and well a host of other unpleasant things. Let's completely overlook the slave labour camps, the withholding of passports, maltreatment etc. Plenty of historical documents saying the same things you two have when people visited Germany whilst completely ignoring the labour came from the local concentration camps.

If that's the best the region can do at the moment considering the legacy of what it has offered the world then it's all rather sad.
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Spot on, but the brainwashed politically correct ^%"&" dont care about the truth.

Kristoph said:
We just got on with our holiday and accepted their way. It's called respect.
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No, thats called bending over backwards to barbaric customs. You didnt have the guts to be yourselves on a holiday because you were that afraid of being there.
 
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Castiel said:
I didn't snog her on the beach if that is what you mean, it would be in-appropriate regardless of the country I was in. Kissing in greeting or farewell etc is not illegal.
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I was actually referring to this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8602449.stm

So you go on holiday with your significant others to these places, and never even kiss them, they must enjoy, or just be used to not getting any.
 
bhavv said:
Spot on, but the brainwashed politically correct ^%"&" dont care about the truth..
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Thanks for the vote of confidence. It's nice to see someone else who sees Dubai for the temporary display of misappropriated wealth that it is and thinks that it is a travesty that it is placed forward when compared with the wealth of culture that is available from the Middle Eastern and Muslim world like the scientific advances, breathtaking poetry, noble leaders and charitable and hospitable people.
 
Even funnier is that if all the same kind of laws that exist in these hell on Earth countries were passed in the UK, all the people in this thread defending and 'respecting' them in other countries would be the first ones to be in an uproar of protest against the new changes.
 
bhavv said:
So you go on holiday with your significant others to these places, and never even kiss them, they must enjoy, or just be used to not getting any.
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That's a little un necassary. Just because you're debating with someone doesnt mean you need to try and take a stab at them.

As for kissing in public, I give my girl a peck on the cheek, sometimes a kiss on the lips. But if i was going somewhere and knew it wasnt allowed... I dont think we'd struggle to control ourselves. And it would probably mean the night in the hotel room would just be extra fun
 
bhavv said:
No, thats called bending over backwards to barbaric customs. You didnt have the guts to be yourselves on a holiday because you were that afraid of being there.
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We chose to go there knowing the customs, we wanted to experience that culture.

Stop projecting your little worries and dislikes.

You have issues bhavv. ;)
 
maustin said:
Personally I think Dubai is a big chavtastic display of inappropriate wealth - crude, without character and well a host of other unpleasant things. Let's completely overlook the slave labour camps, the withholding of passports, maltreatment etc. Plenty of historical documents saying the same things you two have when people visited Germany whilst completely ignoring the labour came from the local concentration camps.

If that's the best the region can do at the moment considering the legacy of what it has offered the world then it's all rather sad.
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What is inappropiate wealth?, you can travel to London, New York, Los Angeles, Paris, and numerous other places to see that, it is not exclusive to Dubai.

As for the Slave Labour, it is hardly slavery but it is exploitative I agree, and again, Dubai do not have the exclusive rights on exploitative practices, two thirds of the world can be accused of equal or worse and lets not forget that the construction labour was recruited by and the responsibility of some Western companies such as The First Group.

The Dubai authorities moved to close down some camps, fine the contractors and sub contractors responsible and forced them to improve the conditions under many of these people work. It is still not equitable to Western Standards however, but then neither is most of the world unfortunately.

I watched the same documentary as you obviously and I no more agree with treating people like that than anyone else, however it is the companies that use such practices that need addressing, not the people who live there.
 
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maustin said:
Thanks for the vote of confidence. It's nice to see someone else who sees Dubai for the temporary display of misappropriated wealth that it is and thinks that it is a travesty that it is placed forward when compared with the wealth of culture that is available from the Middle Eastern and Muslim world like the scientific advances, breathtaking poetry, noble leaders and charitable and hospitable people.
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Bhavv doesn't quite share your equitable view of Muslim Culture however Maustin.
 
bhavv said:
I was actually referring to this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8602449.stm

So you go on holiday with your significant others to these places, and never even kiss them, they must enjoy, or just be used to not getting any.
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Judgemental little tyke aren't we....

No I generally don't snog my wife in the middle of a restaurant, there is a time and place for everything.

If I wanted to go on a dirty weekend or holiday then obviously Dubai would not be the place we would choose.
 
What the crap.

I thought Youtube commenters were the retards of the internet, clearly some folks here are in pole position.
 
bhavv said:
Or even the laws that allow or ignore such practices maybe?
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The point is that the laws do not allow such practices, poor management and oversight did. As I said I neither agree with or support such practices, but the Dubai Govt moved to address many of the issues with imported labour and the business practices of the firms involved, not to mention the recruitment agencies in the countries of origin who were ultimately responsible for the poor wages, passport retention and numerous other human rights abuses. It is not as simple as blaming the people of Dubai enmass without addressing the companies themselves that led the exploitation.
 
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