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If they are from an EU member state, then yes.
Huge accident on M5
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If they are from an EU member state, then yes.
The average motorist can count on one hand the number of times they'll pass non EU registered trucks on the Motorway.
have you never seen them try and overtake one another?
the slipstream leads them to believe it's worth a go.
I don't think thats what he was implying!
mirror, signal, manoeuvre.....
I think what he was getting at is he had clearly signalled to pull out, and the driver behind in the second lane (not necessarily next to him) didn't pull into the third lane. Assume the third lane is clear is it not polite and general road manor to pull into the empty lane to aid another road use in there manoeuvre?
i think implying that HGVs expect you to move out the way is a little out of order, you ever tried driving one of those things??
Incline, how heavy/loaded the lorry is can mean they may be travelling at less than 56 mph.
I was talking to a HGV driver the other day, he admitted that one older HGV's there was a trick with (i don't remember what model it was) where if you flicked off the ignition and straight back on again it would knock out the Tacho and away you go! no limiter! im sure new trucks that doesn't work. but it used to be possible
Ireland is part of the EU......
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So on a flat road all these EU HGV's are incapable of going over 56 mph?
So basically you can have the pedal to the floor and it won't go any faster?
So basically you can have the pedal to the floor and it won't go any faster?
I don't think thats what he was implying!
mirror, signal, manoeuvre.....
I think what he was getting at is he had clearly signalled to pull out, and the driver behind in the second lane (not necessarily next to him) didn't pull into the third lane. Assume the third lane is clear is it not polite and general road manor to pull into the empty lane to aid another road use in there manoeuvre?
i think implying that HGVs expect you to move out the way is a little out of order, you ever tried driving one of those things??
Thank you!
If people bother to re-read what I wrote rather than go on about the power of their V8 (DRZ!) you may appreciate that I was indicating only when cars were clearly behind me - I've been driving long enough to do it properly, (despite what the average trucker admittedly tends not to do) as I said, my point is given the size of the trailer, you can't see what I am intending to change lane to avoid, it could be a suddenly slowed HGV / Car (as per what possibly happened on the M5 last week) it could be a stranded vehicle, fallen tree, whatever. My point is, I may be effectively saying "****! I can't stop - weight & speed - I HAVE to change lane damn quickly which is why I am indicating" The time it takes for DRZ's impressive V8 to power past me could well be the difference between me hitting said obstruction, or, me being able to pull into lane 2 if DRZ had used his head & pulled into lane 3 or simply dropped back.
I'm sure HGV drivers come across as agressive, believe me, its an impression not a standard driving style. Drive an HGV in an agressive manner and you will kill somebody , damn quickly.
I am probably in a vast minority of truckers when I say I would NEVER merely indicate & pull out at the same time, its a crazy thing to do given the blind spots of an HGV, I always indicate and wait to see if something appears out of my blind spot. Sometimes though, my only course of action would be to indicate & pull out if a sudden, unforseen blockage presented itself infront of me, which I feel is most likely what heppened last week on the M5 alas....
Whilst many HGV drivers do indicate & pull out, I for one wish it was some kind of requirement that traffic has to give way to larger vehicles, it would make my job easier, considerably, but more to the point,would possibly prevent what took place last friday (controversial, I know!)
I also found it interesting that the driver of the much berated "Hot hatch" Scooby driver (ok, I know its not a hatch, but you get me?) was the only one who reacted as I would in my own car.
I somehow knew I would be opening a can of worms by posting the results of this, I must say I am more than a little disapointed - but equally, not surprised - by some of the comments in reply.
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Yep, same as our new cars and vans at work 70 and 60 respectively. You can pop it out of gear on a downhill to get faster. But even on a downhill in gear your lucky to do more than 2-3mph faster, it feels odd and I hate it.
Absolutely. In the case of my 10 plate Scania R440, it'll do 55MPH & no more.
Down a hill - fully freighted - , it would go off the clock, if I was mad enough to let it mind you!!!
Irish lads tend to be fond of disabled speed limiters, VOSA are wise to this, which is why you see a lot of Irish plated HGV's in check points!
As for hills, see above.
I never said that I did this, nor would I thanks. - Some, I admit, do alas.
Many HGV drivers, sadly, do drive in such a manner. I would argue that it is a minority though. Unfortunately, its the bad ones that grab the attention.
I certainly don't condone such driving and if we had better traffic policing, this would not be the issue it clearly is.
Back in the day, this was relatively common and I admit ,in my youth, to trying it out.
It does not disrupt the tachograph, it effectively knocks off the limiter for a few seconds, keep doing it though and you could build speed up considerably.
I have been driving HGV's for 15 years, it was about 13years ago that I last tried this, it was not big, nor clever and a royal bollocking at a VOSA checkpoint (when I was pulled for overtaking an unmarked VOSA van @ 67MPH taught me a valuable lesson.) - I was lucky to get off with a bollocking tbh.
I would guess a modern HGV won't let this happen any more, I would not want to try it these days so could not say if it was still the case or not.
I've been no saint in the past, but in my later years, I am happy to see the error of my previous ways!!!
I used to be a real speed demon (if such a thing is possible in an HGV!) I can only assume that a: being a parent and b: that I've got a tad wiser with age has helped me chill the **** out and go with the flow as I do these days.
This.
Many times I have passed Citroens for example (many tend to have large digital speedo's that you can easily read at night) @ 55MPH on my limiter, using cruise control, usually, the cars speedo is reading 61 - 63MPH.
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[TW]Fox;20535446 said:
I was really only commenting on the above "fact".
I own a courier company I have driven many many types of commercial vehicle >7.5t So I can empathise with how much of a ball ache speeding up and slowing down a HGV.
There was also a comment made about the Subaru driver being the only one to correctly move into another lane. "Correct" maybe courteous but "correct" I'd have to see it in writing.
I'm an experienced driver and will often move over before the HGV signals as reading the road comes with many many miles under the belt.
Yes it may be nice to move over for a HGV but there becomes problems when HGV drivers expect it. NOT saying all do. But there are always a few on every motorway journey I do. Although NOT Stobart drivers
I'll third this.
/tips hat in appreciation!