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1900xtx vs 5850

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My friend has been out of pc gaming for 5 years, at the time he had a good system, he has just got back online and has now realised his pc is very dated.

specs of pc:
water cooled E6600 @3.4
2gb 6400 gskill ram
asus motherboard
water cooled 1900xtx
19" tft monitor (1280x1024)

HOW MUCH FASTER WILL AN ATI5850 BE VS HIS ATI 1900XTX IN CURRENT SYSTEM???:confused:

I know the rest of his system if pretty old now as well but he has little / no funds so was going to look for a ati 5850 for him on the members market, hopefully this will give him enough grunt to play modern games even if not at max settings. He thinks it might not be worth doing as he thinks he needs a whole new pc to play modern games (but this will take him another 5 years lol) so what do you guys think worth it or not? how much gains do you think he will see in performance?
 
x1900xtx is an old obsolete piece of junk....there is really no comparison between that and a 5850.
 
Agreed with the more memory advice, another 2gb in there and the 5850 and he'd notice a major difference in what the PC could cope with.
The resolution is extremely low on that monitor, would be able to max plenty of games out I'd think.

Definitely does not need a full upgrade from that spec to play modern games at reasonable spec.
3.4ghz E6600 will still power through most things, could maybe upgrade to a Q6600 at some point but more memory and better graphics would yield better results.
 
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x1900xtx is an old obsolete piece of junk....there is really no comparison between that and a 5850.

So going by that logic that means the 5xxx series is a piece of junk too in a few more years time... Anything that's done well for it's time is junk in your view?
 
So going by that logic that means the 5xxx series is a piece of junk too in a few more years time... Anything that's done well for it's time is junk in your view?
When the 5850 is useless in games then yes it's a piece of junk
 
Cheers for the replies, he even knows the 1900xtx is now a defunked piece of junk, but what does he upgrade to best bang for buck also squeezing max performance he can out of his aged system. I was thinking anything better than a 5850 would be too costly and a bit of a waste on his system and be bottlenecked by the rest of it. As it stands the rest of his pc will probably still bottleneck a 5850 but by how much?. Do you think he would be better off with a cheaper 5770 or will the gains be worth it on a 5850.
 
E6600 @3gig or faster is still fine unless your using something faster than a 5850/460, couple of games where the lack of quad core will hurt a bit tho i.e. Battlefield 3 but most games totally fine - that CPU won't really bottleneck a 5850 at all and only a minor bottlneck on 5870.
 
Ah looks like your right enlighten and physics threads were hammering it on less than 3 core systems while in development but I've not kept up with it since it requires Origin to play :S
 
Cheers for the replies, he even knows the 1900xtx is now a defunked piece of junk, but what does he upgrade to best bang for buck also squeezing max performance he can out of his aged system. I was thinking anything better than a 5850 would be too costly and a bit of a waste on his system and be bottlenecked by the rest of it. As it stands the rest of his pc will probably still bottleneck a 5850 but by how much?. Do you think he would be better off with a cheaper 5770 or will the gains be worth it on a 5850.

The key question really is, how much does he have to spend, and what is he looking for. If he's only got a 1280x1024 screen, then a 5850 wouldn't be where I'd put the money.

4gb really is incredibly useful/required these days, 8gb is nice and more than enough for most. Memory is also dirt cheap although, he'll probably be on a ddr2 system which could be more expensive memory wise(ddr3 memory prices tanked, older memory prices don't always tank but sometimes go up due to rarity).

If he only has £100 max, then realistically the top gpu he can get second hand for that money on MM, and if theres money left over try and find 2gb more for his system and live with it. An E6600 isn't fantastic performances these days, but not bad either, stuff like Skyrim will likely suffer, most stuff will be more than playable.

If he can spend £200, I'd say rather than £200 on a gpu, I'd spend £100 gpu still, and pick up a cheap mobo, cpu/memory with the other £100. £40 mobo, £40 cpu, £20 4gb memory. While it won't be massively faster, it would be a more capable system, and better in the future for another gpu upgrade down the line in a year or two.
 
His budget will be max £100 at xmas. So I was thinking if he is lucky he would be able to get a 5850 and 2gb more memory for that money. As it won't be till xmass, with a bit of luck some people on here might be upgrading around that time and I can snap them up for him.

After this he will be looking in the future to get a new screen and maybe a quad core Q6600, but that will be way off in the future.
 
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