Orange San francisco 2 coming soon!

Spartacus · 16 Nov 2011 at 02:11

http://www.itproportal.com/2011/11/15/iphone-3gs-rival-alert-orange-san-francisco-ii-starts-100/

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Orange-San-Francisco-II-Coming-Soon-in-the-UK-234413.shtml

Slipperz · 16 Nov 2011 at 08:29

I had the san fran for a while, a great little phone, introduced me into the android world nicely

This looks even better

latercomer2 · 16 Nov 2011 at 09:10

Seems I was a little too early for this having just upgraded to a basic smart phone 2 weeks ago but at least it explains why Orange weren't able to do a deal including the original one!

loltim · 16 Nov 2011 at 12:05

iphone 3gs rival alert? anyone can compete with a 2 year old phone, surely?

1LANCS · 16 Nov 2011 at 13:19

Still an ARMv6 CPU. When will these companies learn.

Steve_bullockuk · 16 Nov 2011 at 14:06

1LANCS said:
Still an ARMv6 CPU. When will these companies learn.

The phone costs £100 brand new!! Surely you can't expect it to contain a dual core monster :confused:

Fantastic device for the money.

Columbo · 16 Nov 2011 at 16:20

Really don't see what this offers over the original OSF tbh.

Nexus18 · 16 Nov 2011 at 17:31

Have to admit that is very poor indeed!

Would still choose the monte carlo over this personally.

grudas · 16 Nov 2011 at 17:57

wuut? in that time only that much of an "improvement"? milking it big time. only those that never read specs will buy it.. and SF was selling like a hot cake because it was good an OK specced phone for the price at the time it was released.. 2011 and you get 800mhz cpu.. lol.

Glaucus · 16 Nov 2011 at 18:01

loltim said:
iphone 3gs rival alert? anyone can compete with a 2 year old phone, surely?

Competing with the phone has never been the issue. Competing with the Eco system and to a lesser extent the software has been.

Nice littel boost with same price tag. Will do what the original sf did. Why do other companies try selling phones at the under £200 mark and why do people by them instead of this.

da_mic_1530 · 16 Nov 2011 at 18:31

I see no reason to upgrade from my original san fra, would rather the monte carlo

Cybermyk · 16 Nov 2011 at 19:32

With an Arm11 SoC, will this one run flash?

lewism · 16 Nov 2011 at 19:46

it'll probably still have the terrible texting that the SF and MC had so no thanks.

Psycho Sonny · 16 Nov 2011 at 21:02

da_mic_1530 said:
I see no reason to upgrade from my original san fra, would rather the monte carlo

the camera on the san francisco is a joke for a start, it's so bad its not even worth using, then add in the fact most san fran's sold were tft, this is AMOLED.

they are 2 very important reasons to upgrade imo, as well as several others.

also Xperia Play > Monte Carlo (same price bracket).

mjones1 · 16 Nov 2011 at 21:25

Psycho Sonny said:
the camera on the san francisco is a joke for a start, it's so bad its not even worth using, then add in the fact most san fran's sold were tft, this is AMOLED.

they are 2 very important reasons to upgrade imo, as well as several others.

also Xperia Play > Monte Carlo (same price bracket).

You are comparing a £100 & £150 phone which isn't really in the same price bracket when looking for a cheap phone.

Psycho Sonny · 16 Nov 2011 at 22:36

mjones1 said:
You are comparing a £100 & £150 phone which isn't really in the same price bracket when looking for a cheap phone.

huh?

he said he saw no point in the SF2, he would rather get a monte carlo.

SF2 = £100
Monte Carlo = £150

now i said there was many reasons why to get a SF2 from a SF1. i also stated that Xperia play (£150) was better than the MC in the same price bracket.

SF2 > SF1 (£100)
Xperia Play > MC (£150)

maybe you should read both posts fully again.

A2Z · 16 Nov 2011 at 23:51

Completely pointless phone, not worth upgrading from original OSF.

Not even worthy of a thread to be honest!

Spartacus · 17 Nov 2011 at 01:09

A2Z said:
Completely pointless phone, not worth upgrading from original OSF.

Not even worthy of a thread to be honest!

While I agree its not enough of an improvement to be worth an upgrade from the original San Fran for most people, its still an improvement over the original and will be one of the best value Android phones for anyone on a budget of 100 pounds.

I disagree about it not being worthy of a thread though. The thread is to inform people theres a new version out, and people can then make up their own mind about it. As you can already see there are differences of oppinion about the phone already on here!

Cheers

muon · 17 Nov 2011 at 01:25

Is this definitely amoled?

http://www.gsmarena.com/orange_san_francisco_ii-4330.php

Bargain £99 phone if it is, even with the Armv6 processor.

Vimes · 17 Nov 2011 at 10:28

Psycho Sonny said:
huh?

he said he saw no point in the SF2, he would rather get a monte carlo.

SF2 = £100
Monte Carlo = £150

now i said there was many reasons why to get a SF2 from a SF1. i also stated that Xperia play (£150) was better than the MC in the same price bracket.

SF2 > SF1 (£100)
Xperia Play > MC (£150)

maybe you should read both posts fully again.

I can't seem to find the Xperia for £150, it seems to be closer to £200 in many shops, not counting the mini version.
But you can get the MC from Orange themselves for £119.99 + £10 top up...

http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/orange-monte-carlo

...so £130 seems to be the price for the MC.

A video of the SF II can be seen here...

http://www.eurodroid.com/2011/11/17/video-orange-san-francisco-ii-confirmed-99-plus-10-credit/

...with confirmation of pricing etc.

FWIW - there is a detailed thread up at Modaco on unlocking the MC, early indications suggests that it works - albeit a little convoluted.