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Now you're just being stupid. Come on guys, name me one prime number that is greater than two and is even!
Demonstrators 'Occupy Wall Street' to Protest
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Oh no, Fox is just doing what he does and is gunning for someone.
Protests are a good way of demonstrating your displeasure at something.
They do work, they have worked on small and large scale in history. I've not at a point said that they all work, I've said that many don't, that many are poorly organised and ruined by a minority.
Some work, some don't.
As I previously said, Protests also raise awareness, even if people disagree with the protest and it's motivation, surely raising the level of thinking and getting people more aware of there surroundings and being a bit more critical is a good thing.
Protests are a good way of demonstrating your displeasure at something.
They do work, they have worked on small and large scale in history. I've not at a point said that they all work, I've said that many don't, that many are poorly organised and ruined by a minority.
Some work, some don't.
As I previously said, Protests also raise awareness, even if people disagree with the protest and it's motivation, surely raising the level of thinking and getting people more aware of there surroundings and being a bit more critical is a good thing.
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They rarely work and the bigger the protest the more often the net result is that it simply entrenches the other side.
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Yea, thats totally on the same page as me pointing out that mass protest is ineffective and you being unable to give me examples of where it was.
Mass protest only works when it turns into mass violence - hence the reason why mass protest in Egypt worked. It also sets a dangerous precedent as the population soon learn they just need to kick off every time they want something, hence Eygpt again. Then you get mob rule.
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I don't think anyone is under the illusion that the population of the UK are not displeasured about the current economic situation.
*sighs*
Yes, but they "do" work.
They have worked, and hopefully will continue to work. I agree, most don't, but some do, some change things.
The march on Washington in the early 60's (63, iirc been ages since I've thought about it / studied it) worked, and the anti war marches recently didn't work.
[TW]Fox;20641781 said:
The March on Washington in the 60's.
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Well clearly there is a population that are motivated to protest? There were a million that protests against the Cuts, myself included and there are people that are protesting against this.
So clearly there *are* people who are displeased, hence the protest.
If people are so anti protesting, have an anti protest protest.
I hope it doesn't end like the march against the cuts ended.
It's not sarcasm, honest!
I disagree with your opinions entirely but they appear to be at least formed on understanding rather than just an ideal.
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Hmm.
I disagree with lots of people on here with their view to politics because I'm a little too left I guess to agree with many. So I tend to stay away.
I do enjoy a bit of debate, like everyone disagreed with me when I went off to the March against cuts, but there was some pretty good debate to be had in the thread once you figured out who to ignore.
Here we see again what I mentioned earlier.
When the argument of these 'people' collapses (as it always does), they just post nonsense/stop posting.
Fact is, no protests have really worked in recent times in developed countries. Nor are they going to.
It's probably because you possess a brain and stay fairly calm and tend to back your points up with sensible stuff instead of idealistic rubbish.
Unlikely, given that the majority of people striking will be at home in their dressing gowns watching daytime telly.
Stereotype or truth?
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You're looking at it the wrong way. It's not a case of a singular protest being the only thing that causes a reaction. The strike on the 30th will be part of a movement that started over a year ago.
Depends how you define "recent" the protests in the Middle East led to something happening, and in the 60's which I guess is recent history certainly changed things then.
The cuts marches and strikes yet to have an effect, and the war strikes in this country (and elsewhere) didn't change much.
I'm sorry I've not thought of much more to add to this, I'm just tired and having a bad day / week.
Umm, don't want to speak for everyone, I'll probably go to the local rally and then I'll spend the day doing nothing, going to see the Ukelele orchestra in the evening though
I've no idea how friends who are striking are planning on spending the day, I imagine a local rally with NUT friends and then off to do something productive with their day off.
I'm not really counting the middle east protests as they are pretty extreme and the countries they happened/are happening in aren't exactly normal.
This is true and shouldn't be forgotten, but I'd also say it's far too early to judge if this has "worked" or not. If we see more investment in the public sector and slightly less cuts, then it's a success, but it depends how you measure the success.
I doubt very much Mr Cameron will make a U turn on something like this, but again, linking back to what I said, I hope, I *really* hope that these sort of things spark a very intelligent and thought out debate between the people who run the country.