Autism, Aspergers, Dyspraxia etc

Spectrum disorders are spectrum disorders. It's in the name - it is not a I do or not have it condition. It is a I have it but to what extent condition. The fact that you do have it to some degree will change the way you deal with the world compared to more "normal" reactions. It does not therefore endow some carte blanche excuse for doing whatever or excusing you from whatever. To argue that is as equally crazy as the people who deny such conditions exist. Once people get past the misconception that these are concrete things as such and more a set of symptoms then maybe they can think about it the right way.

One would not stop their life because they had a virus. You would differentiate it into how it actually impacted you - common cold, take some paracetamol and get over it, ebola panic and say your last goodbyes. I know from the criteria tests I fail both ASD and Aspergers - so what it does not stop me from living my life. In many ways I see it as a plus. I never sought to be the social butterfly and knuckled down instead and worked hard to get where I wanted. It never debilitates me to the extent I can not function. Like most people I learnt appropriate responses from observing other people and how they are applied. If I had been further along the spectrum then I would not have learned the application and then that would have been a problem. The more severe ends of the Autistic spectrum are very very debilitating and likewise if you have Aspergers to a great extent then that also is the same.

Like all these things there is a environmental factor and also a physical factor. Once you go down that growth path then that is it. You can teach people how to cope but never really cure. In the same way you can not really stop an angry person from being angry but you can teach them how to control that anger appropriately. It does annoy me when people so flippantly disregard such things with so little knowledge of how they occur, why they occur and why they are most likely occurring more frequently. But I also get annoyed when people see such a thing as an excuse of not giving things a go when if they actually met people who really struggle they would see they are not in the same ballpark.

@bhavv - Don't presume doctors do not know. Some know quite a lot about such things. For a start they can quite clearly demonstrate visible changes in brain formation in people with some of these symptoms etc.

Sorry for the wall of text :)
 
its more like i dont have any desire to talk to anyone , i dont need to talk to anyone.

I'd rather that my hearing loss became full deafness so I wouldnt have to hear anyone speak, nor respond to them ever again :) ... wait I mean :(
 
I'd rather that my hearing loss became full deafness so I wouldnt have to hear anyone speak, nor respond to them ever again :) ... wait I mean :(

rules me out of the ocuk starwars guild though :rolleyes:

they dont want people who arent chatty... gotta love this community
 
I cant even use the mic in any online game I play!!!!

I just ... CANT!!!

I got a mic ... in fact I've had 3 headsets with mics, and I just speak into them or use them :(
 
Our close friends have a 16 year old who we all think is borderline aspergers. He goes to the High School on a scholarship which is proof enough that he's intelligent.
However this kid is unbelievably smart, he got a straight 100% in his Physics 'A' level recently. He thinks faster and smarter than most of his teachers (they admitted this at last weeks parents evening, lol).
He does however follow the stereotyped norm for people with aspergers as far as social interaction goes.
He's currently working on blueprints for installing a re-breather into a trench coat (don't ask :rolleyes:). And has post-it notes all over his wall with details on how to build an ironman suit.
We laugh at this stuff, but he's deadly serious and, my god, in the future, if anyone can, this kid can. I've never met anyone like him, i'm sure he **** brains when he visits the loo.
 
i got diagnosed with autism at 30 after going to the doctors thinking i had aspergers syndrome.

still waiting for the actual report for it though :( had my assessment done way back in i believe it was july, its already been nearly 2 years since my first GP trip about it aswell

its more like i dont have any desire to talk to anyone , i dont need to talk to anyone.

my barbers try really hard he probably thinks im a right ignorant **** , im tempted to just tell him im autistic and i would rather be quiet and just sit here than be forced into a conversation i dont care for.

btw, a lot of people are saying its not importaint to be diagnosed , it doesnt mattter etc but i want my kids to clearly know the families medical history.

my dads probably mild autistic and maybe thats where i get it from, hoping my child is normal but he seems to be so far (hes 7)

Hi mate, can i ask (if it's not too personal) what you think it is that makes you want to not talk to people. Is it often a feeling of "cba to talk" or is maybe uncomfortable for you to converse.
I'm genuinely intersted in this, as our friends lad sometimes will not stfu, and i'm wondering where that difference along the scale may lie.

Actually this can go out to anyone else with an opinion on this too. Thanks.
 
I went to school with someone with Aspergers. Seriously, it is not something you would aspire to. You can't even conceive how weird he was.

He was obsessed with Dr Who, and this is pre revival, this is back in the 90s when it wasn't cool. He was obsessed with Romana.
He had a blue velvet suit that he wore in sixth form. He had a mustard yellow suit as well.
He kept old scabs in a matchbox.
He kept some of his old teeth in another one. They were covered in chocolate because they'd come out when he was eating chocolate.
He devised a trading card game featuring everyone in our class. Everyone had a different ranking. "Jasonarian" was the best, I think. "Bogey dungbreath" was near the bottom.
He had vey few inhibitions. After PE he'd get changed after a shower and would spend forever putting his socks on with his willy still on the loose.
He was weird.

Sure, he was brilliant at maths and physics.

So yeah, take a long hard look at yourself, self-diagnosers. You're not Rain Man. You're not even this guy. You just suck at talking to girls and you like computers. Get over it.
 
I actually get along far better with girls and hate talking to guys.

I have no issue with talking to people if I have to, I just absolutely hate doing so, nor desire it in anyway. I never seem to get any enjoyment out of them speaking back.

Also I've pretty much never left my house in about 5 years except for medical appointments. I wont even go to weddings or funerals anymore, I see no point in doing so.

Socializing / pubs / clubs is simply the most boring and epically useless thing I have ever had to waste my time doing.
 
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I'm genuinely intersted in this, as our friends lad sometimes will not stfu, and i'm wondering where that difference along the scale may lie.

Without going into a medical thread which naturally is not allowed - this is pretty much the same thing. It is a lack of awareness in social context - so the fact he will not stop is also a highly indicative behaviour. (Which by itself means nothing - you can have a cough it does not mean you have TB although one would expect someone to have a cough with TB.)

Eg

Other people talk - I don't understand why they talk - I avoid it
Other people talk - I don't understand why they talk - I talk constantly

Rather than:

Other people talk - They do it for social reasons I understand - I talk to that effect

Edit: So what I am saying is this would not be uncommon at all but would have to be in the context of a great many other things. But if they were concerned then their natural port of call would be to a GP for referring onto to a paediatrician who would then refer on etc so they could the statement that would assist at school with providing a rationale for behaviour etc. Genuine concerns of this type, in any age, should be picked up by a school/good nursery and may have already been highlighted from an early age by a health visitor eg not breastfeeding and/or poor milk feeding, lack of interactive play, overly/no imaginative play etc and then moving on through school. However, many health and education professionals hold equally ignorant views as such presented in this thread. Such a process may well worth be doing even at the age of 16 as it will enable a university to have a reason for problems. Just because he can cope academically does not necessarily mean he will cope socially when all the familiarity is removed. That is why you get obsessive behaviour - it is understandable routine - explainable, consistent and measurable - i.e understandable in a pure form without added contextual components.
 
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I had a 'friend' at school who had Aspergers. Whilst he was arguably a bit socially inept with the opposite sex. Ok a bit is an understatement, he refused to talk to them or acknowledge that they could be good at anything... we actually found that if you treated him like every other person he was a bit odd, but you know, he wasn't actually that bad...

He got on with life and as society treated him normally, I honestly saw huge improvements from him in yr 7 to him in yr 13...

kd
 
Hi mate, can i ask (if it's not too personal) what you think it is that makes you want to not talk to people. Is it often a feeling of "cba to talk" or is maybe uncomfortable for you to converse.
I'm genuinely intersted in this, as our friends lad sometimes will not stfu, and i'm wondering where that difference along the scale may lie.

Actually this can go out to anyone else with an opinion on this too. Thanks.
i just dont need conversation and its very uncomfortable when someone is trying to force me into one.
i dont get facial cues that normal people pick up on and i dont understand emotions, my wife said i dont show any either...
i find it easier to talk to people when im not looking at them which i imagine is very annoying for the other person..

some people with aspergers are very chatty and wont STFU but you can also get very quiet and shy people with aspergers aswell (they tend to have very focused interests but the same can be said for autistic people aswell)
the over chatty ones tend to not understand social boundaries so you might find them often beeing inapropriate. (attempting to randomly give hugs to people etc, including strangers)
 
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As xordium eloquently put it, it's a sliding scale. Personally if I'm going to be completely honest, a few years ago I could probably have been considered the same. I was ridiculously introvert, no social skills, played video games all the time (damn you CS-S!) etc etc.

Fast forward to today and I'd have hoped I've changed quite a lot. I starting putting forward effort, pushing myself out of my comfort zone, and learnt the things that I was missing.

Still not fantastically great, but if I can hold the attention of a pretty girl and have people I can consider friends, it's certainly not a bad lot!

To classify anything as black and white is silly, and to be honest, I think labelling yourself is a sure fire way of ensuring you don't improve.
 
I starting putting forward effort, pushing myself out of my comfort zone, and learnt the things that I was missing.

I already tried this though, and met some fantastic people, but I still didnt enjoy socializing!

Everyone that has gotten to know me would say that I am strange or that there is definitely something wrong with me, EVEN when I'm trying my best to socialize and get along with people. I am basically 100% socially inept, and I cannot stand socializing or being around / talking to people.

When I used to work, I wouldnt speak a single word to anyone unless someone spoke to me first and required a response, and even then my reply would be completely monotonous and robotic. I cant even greet people or say hello to anyone I know.

I spent 4 or 5 years forcing myself to socialise, and I never enjoyed a single minute of it.
 
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I starting putting forward effort, pushing myself out of my comfort zone, and learnt the things that I was missing.
i tried this but just didnt find anything i was missing lol...
i even went clubbing a few times but this was before i was aware i wasnt normal so meh...

since finding out ive tried to do more and be more outgoing but i will never be able to have a good social life or many friends...

im content enough with how i am and if others who know me dont like it tough, its my life not yours! so dont go around pretending you know whats best for me and trying to force me into social gatherings etc isnt doing me a favour FFS
 
It's amazing how often the same subjects come up so frequently in GD:

1. The England/Scotland crap.
2. Muslims, and why they're bad for you.
3. Also, the gays aren't very good either. Or the blacks.
4. Can anyone who isn't a lawyer please give me professional legal advice on something which will have an immediate, direct and possibly non-reversible effect on my life?
5. People shun me because I'm a terrible person, I THINK I'M AUTISTIC!
 
[FnG]magnolia;20667682 said:
It's amazing how often the same subjects come up so frequently in GD:

1. The England/Scotland crap.
2. Muslims, and why they're bad for you.
3. Also, the gays aren't very good either. Or the blacks.
4. Can anyone who isn't a lawyer please give me professional legal advice on something which will have an immediate, direct and possibly non-reversible effect on my life?
5. People shun me because I'm a terrible person, I THINK I'M AUTISTIC!

its amazing how many people openly insult aspergers sufferers with childish "assburgers" rubbish and they never get temp banned for it...

if it were someone who couldnt walk we wouldnt get idiots in here calling them cripples and laughing at them
 
its amazing how many people openly insult aspergers sufferers with childish "assburgers" rubbish and they never get temp banned for it...

if it were someone who couldnt walk we wouldnt get idiots in here calling them cripples and laughing at them

I'm not insulting the sufferers, I'm insulting the pretenders. There's a huge difference.
 
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