Autism, Aspergers, Dyspraxia etc

arknor said:
1you dont seem to understand much at all and just come across as someone who likes to judge and persecute anyway with ASD.

2you dont seem able to seperate aspergers syndrome and autism.

3aspergers is the one most people lead them selfs to believe that have or people use as an excuse to avoid jail time and is hwat i originaly thought i might have had.

4autism is generally considered to be a lot worse than aspergers and is what i was actually diagnosed with.

5you porbbaly think its all made up and theres nothing wrong with me because i can interact on a highly specialised internet forum.
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1 I think that you are just as guilty as Fox on this one. You are suggesting that he knowns nothing of the condition due to his persona on an internet forum. You don't know him, and similarly don't know of any difficulties he may have himself.

2 The dividing line between them is actually quite blurry. Yes there are features which distinguish them, but there will be a few people who could quite comfortable sit in either (due to the complexity of their situation)

3 I don't know where to start with this one. I don't know of many people who go to the doctors and say 'I think I'm Autistic'. The very act of doing that suggests an awareness at a level where their impairment is not going to require specialist support.

Yes, you might be a bit different. Perhaps socially unaware. Perhaps communication isn't your strong subject. However, to 'blame' autism for things which have happened is not a good defense.

People with Schizophrenia don't self refer often, because part of the condition requires that they believe their behaviour to be normal. It's similar with Autism.

4 Just, no. There is no 'worse'. You can have 'high functioning autism', which is dinstinct from Aspergers. As I've said before, everybody is autistic to some degree. It's only when that degree has a significant effect on their lives that it becomes a problem. It's comments like this which make people think you wear it as a badge of honour.

5 He's not suggesting that you don't have ASD. He's saying that a lot of your behaviours point to the contrary.
 
@ arknor - I suggest you stop looking at this thread and just take a step back. What people on here means nothing at the end of the day it is of no consequence to you. I would reiterate that it is best to not tell total strangers of any medical condition. For what benefit can it give you? It is quite clear people in here are going to say things through lack of knowledge, personal belief, because they can get away with it, etc. So just don't bother. And sometimes it is better to see the cup as half full you know.
 
It is amazing how many socially inept or introverted people claim they have autism or aspergers. No, just like me you are just not very social and don't like hnaging out with others too much.

Anyone who self-diagnoses such nonsense should eb done for fraud!. It just creates major problems for society and thsoe that actually do have a genuine disorder. I feel sorry for the 10% os Austcis that actually have a psycholoigcial disorder whent he 90% of self-diagnosed and mis-diagnosed idiots get in the way.

Edit: see how bad my spelling is, I must have Dyslexia.
 
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arknor your posts sound pretty normal to me, suerly this forum is as social as any conversation. life isn't always easy but making excuses wont help.
 
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starfighter said:
arknor your posts sound pretty normal to me, suerly this forum is as social as any conversation.
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Which is why it would be so easy for him as there is no interpretative things to take into context like facial expressions, etc. If however those were added to the communication then things may well be very different.

starfighter said:
life isn't always easy but making excuses wont help.
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Which I think pretty much everyone here is in agreement on that.
 
starfighter said:
arknor your posts sound pretty normal to me, suerly this forum is as social as any conversation.
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It's a world apart, you don't have to worry about body language, facial expressions, stilted patterns of speech, a monotone, disinterested sounding voice and best of all, you can read what you're about to say and sanity check it before blurting it out in a real conversation.
 
Mr.Pink said:
No they are not.
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Erm, yes they are.

http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autism/autism-and-asperger-syndrome-an-introduction/what-is-asperger-syndrome.aspx

Note the opening paragraph -- "Here we explain more about Asperger syndrome - a form of autism - including the three main difficulties that people with Asperger syndrome share, how many people have the condition, and what may cause it."

Autism varies in degrees of severity. Someone can be Autistic but not suffer from Aspergers, but cannot suffer from Aspergers and not be Autistic. They are not seperate.
 
But you said they were "one and the same" but we know that Aspergers is a subset of ASD. So therefore they are not "one and the same". That is why he called you on it. Would like saying fish and salmon are the same.
 
similar is not the same.

why are they classified differently if they are the same?

just because they are both autistic spectrum disorders does not make them the same thing
 
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