UK double dip recession inevitable

Vonhelmet said:
You want to take child benefit from parents and give it to people over 40 wih no burdens on their finances? Are you insane?
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Why do we reward unemployed people for having children? It only creates further generations of jobless parents. Proven fact.
 
People need to spend the money they have that should help what won't help is greed, will never get rid of that. oh. and stop spending on things the world doesn't need. For example, Toilets with PC's in them! Stop project funding too for a little while! Also cut the benefit money slightly.
 
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v0n said:
Instead anyone who doesn't cause burden on public finances - households over 40 that choose not to have kids, get that money instead. If you don't use NHS for a year, don't use public schools, don't claim fuel allowance or anything else - you'll get 2% tax rebate at the end of financial year.
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That's a rather simplistic view. Define "burden" as we have kids, use the NHS and yet we are still net contributors to government coffers (and not an insignificant amount according to http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13633966

It gets a bit boring of hearing how kids are a burden on the economy when plenty of us contribute a lot more than lower-earning families without kids.
 
I'm still of the opinion that the increased VAT has made a more of a negative impact than first thought. Remembering this was at 15% not so long ago.

The problem with all this is restoring public confidence to spend their cash.. Not easy with so much unemployment around.
 
v0n said:
Lower VAT to 15% for five years, freeze fuel duty to maintain prices at £1.20 for petrol and £1.10 for diesel. Suspend all road tolls in the country. Impose public transport price freeze where cost per mile of train journey cannot cost more than equivalent travel in 40 mpg car. Nationalise channel tunnel and price all crossings at £10. Any train company to organize cheap truck-over-rail policy gets to keep 100% money from those tickets tax free. Foreign trucks and spedition from outside of EU from today must buy road use permit at £500 a month (different colour every month) they must display at all times.

Anyone currently on benefits for more than 12 months and without disability gets bright yellow jumpsuit and must join Benefit Payback programme. We are going to get you to sweep public roads, clean council parks, paint NHS walls and fences, wash sheets in elderly care homes, anything that will help us fill several billion large hole in finances. Or you find a job. We'll lower business tax for anyone who employs you from the benefit pool and keeps you for 12 months. Prisoners will now work for their "luxuries". If you have to press registration plates or do hospital laundry to keep your TVs and playstations - so be it. In addition, let's rejiggle few things - no more child benefits - breeding shouldn't be a way to improve your lifestyle. Instead anyone who doesn't cause burden on public finances - households over 40 that choose not to have kids, get that money instead. If you don't use NHS for a year, don't use public schools, don't claim fuel allowance or anything else - you'll get 2% tax rebate at the end of financial year.

This should jump start consumer side of economy, no?
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Are you absolutely insane?
 
D.P. said:
:rolleyes: and for sheer stupoidity have another :rolleyes:

I swear there should be an IQ test before one can vote. Statements like the above make me dispair for humanity.:(

Foreign aid amunts to pocket change inn the grand scheme of things and has real and significant effects. Or do you think saving lives is a waste of money?
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Check your own IQ why dont you?

If foreign aid is 'pocket change', and has no significant effects, then why does the government choose to cut benefits to sick people in its own country before throwing away money into countries with their own space program???

<--- Indian BTW.

And all the money that was dumped into Pakistan has done what exactly? Fueled a decade or so of a military regime and nuclear weapons?

If you think that foreign aid is actually being used to help poor people in other countries, you have no clue whatsoever. You cannot fix poverty by throwing money at poor(er) countries when the governments there are simply corrupt and misuse what they are given.

If you want to fix poverty in India as an example, hand out contraceptives instead and educate / encourage the average dumblings on how to use them. Or do what China did and implement a 1 child only policy.
 
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v0n said:
Why do we reward unemployed people for having children? It only creates further generations of jobless parents. Proven fact.
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Employed people get child benefit as well. Employed people also get tax credits. I'm not sure what you're proposing to cut. And I'm still not sure why you want to take it from people who are already short of money and give it to people with lower living costs.
 
bhavv said:
Check your own IQ why dont you?

If foreign aid is 'pocket change', and has no significant effects, then why does the government choose to cut benefits to sick people in its own country before throwing away money into countries with their own space program???

<--- Indian BTW.
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There are a lot of funding towards projects that do not need to go ahead like research in technology. It's good as it is for now till the whole world becomes stable. The whole world is on a fine border line at present.
 
The boom years were debt fuelled - without debt there would have been no boom. The UK has borrowed it's growth over the last 10 years or so and now it's payback time.
 
bhavv said:
Check your own IQ why dont you?

If foreign aid is 'pocket change', and has no significant effects, then why does the government choose to cut benefits to sick people in its own country before throwing away money into countries with their own space program???

<--- Indian BTW.

And all the money that was dumped into Pakistan has done what exactly? Fueled a decade or so of a military regime and nuclear weapons?

If you think that foreign aid is actually being used to help poor people in other countries, you have no clue whatsoever. You cannot fix poverty by throwing money at poor(er) countries when the governments there are simply corrupt and misuse what they are given.
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Foreign aid amounts to about £9bn a year. The benefits budget is nearer £200bn a year...
 
Dolph said:
Foreign aid amounts to about £9bn a year. The benefits budget is nearer £200bn a year...
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Only pay out half the normal amount of child benefits to a third child, and stop them altogether on any further children.

Crack down on fraudulent claims.

Stop rejecting new and current claims by people who are actually sick / disabled which is what the current approach seems to be.

Fix'd.
 
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