Doing more than you are paid to

[crinkleshoes]

I am charged at £85 per hour, I personally get a fraction of that. Part of my fee goes to overheads, secretarial, buildings etc. Normal business.

£250/hour for me for normal hours, £500 7pm-7am and £750 sundays... that's on-site rates at least, remote is about 55-60% of that.

I get what works out to be 12% of the on-site rate

I'm happy enough with that, the company makes a killing as overheads are minimal... profit margin to them is about 60-70%

Sure I want more, we all do... but that's not the world we live in

I'll certainly be using figures at my yearly review though




What others have said though is true - IT can be well paid - it's just such a broad area, the monkeys who install tills in retail stores can be considered to be working in "IT" even though all they can do (after training) is connect a PC & peripherals. You wouldn't expect them to be on much more than minimum wage now, would you?

It's all about skill set, ability and company.

Experience Cisco engineers can relatively easily get in to 6-figure salaries in London.

Alternately, if you start low on the ladder without the prior skillset, proove your worth, improve your skill set... it's possible to work your way up the ladder rather quickly (like me). You just have to prove that you're worth something to the company & most will want to hold on to you, offering incentives to stick around.

Some companies are just generally terrible though, so you'd need to get out of them to progress (like my last place).

I always do a little bit more than is expected of me (it doesn't have to be much) and it really pays off. Most people seem to want to do the bare minimum, which will never get you anywhere. So attitude is a big factor too!

 

[TommyV]

I've never understood the stance 'my company makes £X a day from me being here! Why don't I get that cash?!' Did you win the business? Did you plan the project?

You get paid. If you don't think what you get poaid is enough speak to your management or find another job.



Depends on the company and the terms.

Are you in line for TUPE?

Yep, it's a TUPE. Our current T&C's are respected for 12 months then they can do whatever the hell they want with us.

I'm not really a fan of it at all and am in a bit of a rutt(sp?) over it. I'm putting in for 6 months sabbatical to go travelling on day 1 of the TUPE. Whether that's a smart move or not, completely unsure, but least I'll have a job to come back to.

Anyway, I'm hoping not to derail the thread for OP. My bad.

 

[Gilly]

Yep, it's a TUPE. Our current T&C's are respected for 12 months then they can do whatever the hell they want with us.

I'm not really a fan of it at all and am in a bit of a rutt(sp?) over it. I'm putting in for 6 months sabbatical to go travelling on day 1 of the TUPE. Whether that's a smart move or not, completely unsure, but least I'll have a job to come back to.

Anyway, I'm hoping not to derail the thread for OP. My bad.

Strange thing to do.

I don't think they can do 'whatever the hell they want'.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

It's always good to take on few more roles than your meant to as it does show that your keen for any future upgrades.

@PMKeates, that's not exactly true! Responsibility gets greater but not always stress. It depends how people handle it.

 

[Supercow]

As Gilly said, I don't get why Moan about being paid for work, which their company in turn then “resells”

So much more goes into “doing the job” than just your little part. If you had a bit more of an omniscient view of the project as a whole, pre-sales, sales, legal, project management, ongoing support, heck – even the process of hiring you (employment agents, cost to interview etc) all adds to the cost of running a business and consequently the prices your company charges.

 

[Yamahahahahaha]

Don't like it? Get a different job.

The reason companies are expensive is because they can guarentee levels of service unlike an individual.

Lots of senior engineers cover services continent-wide, so a company may have less than a dozen of them jetting around all over Europe doing work. Flexibility as well as expertise is the name of the game for those people.

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Actually it's responsibility. Stress is usually an organisational factor, placed from the top down in my experience. A good manager will help mitigate it for his workers, a bad manager will magnify it.

 

[PMKeates]

I toyed with the idea of putting responsibility there but it seemed a bit boring and so I went with stress instead.

One can calculate stress as the cube of responsibility when **** hits the fan

 

[Oxide™]

I'm not sure this is allowed (and I can't sign into my trust to send you an email)

My company is looking for a 2nd/3rd line IT support technician based off Totenham Court Road London. If you are interested email my trust and I can email you the job spec

 

[King Damager]

I've never understood the stance 'my company makes £X a day from me being here! Why don't I get that cash?!' Did you win the business? Did you plan the project?

You get paid. If you don't think what you get paid is enough speak to your management or find another job.



Depends on the company and the terms.

Are you in line for TUPE?

Indeed this.

After about two hours of working somewhere on temp role over summer I'd had someone with this argument. Thought it was ridiculous

Also thought they should have been paid more when their jobs required basically no skills what so ever and there were probably 50 other people in the world willing to do that job (doesn't sound like it applies to the OP), but still it is remarkably annoying....

kd

 

[anything I don't mind]

I liked crinkleshoes answer he has convinced me that working hard might actually pay off in the long run. But a lot of responses were a long the line of, people will exploit you as much you allow it. So realy i was just asking about how any else gauged working that bit extra and being exploited. Some sort of pay relative comparison i guess.