'man' feeds kitten to his pet snake

Ciphon · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:22

Let's be honest, the cat didn't stand a chance...

In the wild it would have run, plain and simple.

In this video, it's (for some reason :confused:

) put in a santa hat, in an enclosed area, being distracted so that the snake can pounce without the cat having any opportunity to get away.

The argument that "this would happen in the wild", is also stupid because of this.

Yes it would happen in the wild, and frankly, I have no problem with that - that's life. This is a domesticated animal (commonly known as a pet), being led to slaughter.

Glaucus · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:22

Killerkebab said:
You don't think so? If he'd bought a rat as a pet, dressed it up, and fed it to his snake, all filmed for the internet?
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Did he buy the cat as a pet?
You can buy mice as food or pet. What makes those animals have two uses and cats one? Again what is the actual tangiable real difference. Some people have rabbits as pets, I see them as food. There are many animals that are dual use and don't have the stigma attached to them. That stigma is based on emotion. Nothing real or actual.
I also would have no problem eating horse, cat, dog abroad. I might only try it once due to taste.

Jambo · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:22

RopAyy said:
Oh please do explain why i have issues?
Make it quick though, i may snap and let my sociopathic tendencies get the better of me and start hunting bigger prey for my pets, im thinking tonight, he can dine on human!

I guess that would be fine though since it's natural and part of the food chain.

Skillmister · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:23

Killerkebab said:
You don't think so? If he'd bought a rat as a pet, dressed it up, and fed it to his snake, all filmed for the internet?

The man's sick and twisted. In this instance, he's not feeding his snake for the sake of feeding, that much is obvious.

Again, whether or not this warrants tracking him down is another matter.

Please tell me how many of these hit the news then

Who's to say the cat was a pet, who's to say whether any of these rats were pets. You perceive a cat as a pet, that is the problem. (as do i, which is why i agreed with you in the first place)

http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...856l0l3960l23l21l1l10l0l0l205l1291l4.5.1l10l0

Angst · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:25

Korean's eat dogs snakes eat kitten's :eek:

Killerkebab · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:25

Glaucus said:
Did he buy the cat as a pet?
You can buy mice as food or pet. What makes those animals have two uses and cats one? Again what is the actual tangiable real difference.

I'm willing to bet no one in this country will sell you a cat if you tell them it is for the purpose of feeding the cat to a snake.

Those animals have two uses because they were bred to two uses. No one breeds cats for food, so I find it wrong to buy them for this purpose. Incidentally, you never mentioned what you think of the whole dressing up aspect, the fact he interfered and distracted the cat to make it easier for the snake, or the fact this was filmed and uploaded - if he's just feeding his snake, why the 'show'?

RopAyy · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:26

Raikiri said:
Mine is getting on for 12 years old now, never once had live food.

Every place I've bought food from have said they use frozen.

They're the same mice though, it's not like quickly freezing them using dry ice removes anything.

A couple of reasons, it's a lot quicker if we kill them and much safer for the snake. Frozen food doesn't bite back

All points listened to, and to be fair your right on most, spose it depends where you go.

I was going to say the only time i wont feed live is if the snake is too small and at risk of damage but i had a Bosc and my current snake which will not touch dead meat. Even animated will not feed on it.
My gramps has a house full and all will only eat live.

The local reptile houses we use feed mostly live unless the animal is happy eaten frozen.

and to the last point, im sure murderous rapists have used that line in court....

mehuk · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:26

Im not sure on this... I agree that there is no real difference in feeding a live rat, mouse or cat etc to a snake, so that dosent bother me.

However in the wild (which is what this type of feeding is supposed to replicate I thought?) .. would a snake and kitten come into contact in this country and thus produce this scenario? The kitten dosent have the savvy to protect himself and although I doubt it would be able to fend off the snake, it was basically a gimme death.

However a prison sentence and hunting the bloke down for vengeance imo is a bit silly, especially when the majority of this forum backed a Paedo and wanted them to have an easy ride, when the story emerged that 2 murderers killed one inside.

Hurt a Cat = OCUK forum manhunt
Fiddle a Kid = OCUK forum friendship

Glaucus · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:27

I said it was weird and clearly done for to bait a reaction.
Ultimately what does it change.

It's no different to dressing up when hunting and that's allowed.

Rabbits are breed for pets and food.
Horses are breed for pets and food.

The argument that it was sold as a pet makes no difference. What does that change, again I'm looking for something quantifiable, not based on some hippy emotions, which have been inbreed into society in the last ~50 years.

Skillmister · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:27

Killerkebab said:
Those animals have two uses because they were bred to two uses. No one breeds cats for food,

Cats are eaten in certain rural Swiss cultures;[11] the traditional recipe on farms in some regions involved cooking the cat with sprigs of thyme.[12] In January 2004, Reuters reported that, "Swiss culinary traditions include puppies and kittens. Private consumption of cat and dog is permissible. Swiss animal welfare groups say it is hard to estimate how many pets are eaten in Switzerland every year.

Killerkebab · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:29

Are we in Switzerland?

robfosters · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:29

As a snake and cat keeper myself I disagree with this purely based on the fact that the kitten was alive.

Captive snakes are perfectly fine with feeding on dead animals. All snake food should be humanely euthanised in the manner that rodents are. Kittens are not euthanised, so therefore are unacceptable prey items.

Nick08 · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:30

It's amazing how strongly people feel about cute and fluffy animals. This will without a doubt get more attention and make more people angry than the lad that was stabbed by a soldier in Afganistahn.

You get this sort of reaction every single time something like this comes up. I remember an article by a journalist showing how much more attention acts of animal cruelty get than human atrocities across the world.

Anyone that gets truly angry at this needs to grow up.

Jambo · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:30

Opinions aside, the fact is it's against the law.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/45/contents

Skillmister · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:30

Killerkebab said:
Are we in Switzerland?

Does it matter? The response from people would be the exact same if it was a cute fluffy swiss kitten.

Glaucus · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:32

Jambo said:
Opinions aside, the fact is it's against the law.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/45/contents

Has anyone contested that?
Would love these emotion based laws to be changed. But unfortunately. Governments are largely public opinion polls. So you will never get laws based on evidence

Killerkebab · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:34

Glaucus said:
I said it was weird and clearly done for to bait a reaction.
Ultimately what does it change.

It's no different to dressing up when hunting and that's allowed.

Rabbits are breed for pets and food.
Horses are breed for pets and food.

The argument that it was sold as a pet makes no difference. What does that change, again I'm looking for something quantifiable, not based on some hippy emotions, which have been inbreed into society in the last ~50 years.

I'm only saying why I and many other people feel this way. I dislike what he's done and I think he's got a couple of screws loose. Whether it is different to the use of other animals is ultimately down to your emotions, I agree. I'm not going to give you something quantifiable because I don't think that's even possible here :/

Skillmister said:
Does it matter? The response from people would be the exact same if it was a cute fluffy swiss kitten.

All except for the 'against the law' aspect, probably

Glaucus said:
Has anyone contested that?
Would love these emotion based laws to be changed. But unfortunately. Governments are largely public opinion polls. So you will never get laws based on evidence

What evidence?

Glaucus · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:35

Killerkebab said:
What evidence?

that laws should be based on evidence rather than some wispy washy moral grounds.
And that's the point, if it's not qauntifiable. Then it is emotion based and should not be law and people should learn about their double standards and reevaluate their stance. Of course that will never happen though. Due to media and pressure being in breed into kids from a young age.

mehuk · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:35

Is the video still online anywhere?

the shadow · 3 Dec 2011 at 17:37

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...twisted-sadisctic-thug-fed-kitten-python.html