'man' feeds kitten to his pet snake

Banzai_Joe · 5 Dec 2011 at 21:56

I don't think i've ever come across a thread that has attracted so many trolls.
If you don't get that what this cretin did was wrong on quite a few basic levels....then like him, you fail at life!
That sick son of a ***** will hopefully get whats coming to him....and i pray that it will be painful.
Some of the arguments in here are simply pathetic. How can anyone excuse in the slightest or even debate any possible reasoning behind what he did?
Unless you have a mind as twisted as that sick **** then........i'd despair.

What he did was illegal, definitely immoral and altogether sadistic and callous beyond words.
Then again there are those of us who would admit to acting the same with him should we be allowed to be locked in a room with him.
Blood = boiled!

wannabedamned · 5 Dec 2011 at 22:00

lol, I'm glad I left this thread to sleep for the night shift. Reading back the posts from Bhavv, He's either cluesless or trolling. But 1 way or another, he is failing in grasping the concept of inhumane treatment to animals. and somehow he feels its okay in some ways.

If thats the case, Good for him! carry on thinking being inhumane to animals is okay. I'll stick with thinking its wrong

Also, If you didnt find the rabbit video you posted funny or have some sort of emotional response to it(in a sick way), why did you go on about jumping straight to 8 seconds to see the impact. Read back what you put, You were way to over excited about that video. it was kinda creepy

G18241 · 5 Dec 2011 at 22:01

In America, it is not ilegal to feed live food to snakes...any snake owner with more than 2 brain cells will not do it as it is more expensive then feeding pre-frozen and is a serious health risk for your snake.

I despise animal cruelty, have had to "brain" a frozen mouse before as my snake wasnt eating, and it took me enarly an hour to do, as even though the mouse was already dead i just couldnt bring myself to doing it

YET i breed cockroaches as live food and it doesnt bother me knowing they are being eaten...it is the way in which this has been done that is sickening, as Nat has said above, if this was in the wild on a wildlife program it wouldnt have been a problem, unlucky kitty, but for someone to possibly enjoy watching this enough to film it is just utterly disgusting

platinum87 · 5 Dec 2011 at 22:05

There was suppose to be a theory that people are desensitised to this sort of thing after a while. However its always the same people who are always outraged.

So my question is. Is it a forum thing, posts like that are way more over the top than the writers actual emotional reaction. I.e. when people type lol, but they never actually lol.

Do certain people just not get desensitised to things ever?

As for the video, the emotional reaction is the same as watching paint dry.. I dont even like pets, why do people even have pets, they pay money to then pay more money and have to take care of it??

The only logical answer is some sort of mental condition really. I should find a forum full of psychiatrists to ask these questions i guess.

Raikiri · 5 Dec 2011 at 22:10

platinum87 said:
As for the video, the emotional reaction is the same as watching paint dry.. I dont even like pets, why do people even have pets, they pay money to then pay more money and have to take care of it??

NathWraith · 5 Dec 2011 at 22:11

Banzai_Joe said:
I don't think i've ever come across a thread that has attracted so many trolls.
If you don't get that what this cretin did was wrong on quite a few basic levels....then like him, you fail at life!
That sick son of a ***** will hopefully get whats coming to him....and i pray that it will be painful.
Some of the arguments in here are simply pathetic. How can anyone excuse in the slightest or even debate any possible reasoning behind what he did?
Unless you have a mind as twisted as that sick **** then........i'd despair.

What he did was illegal, definitely immoral and altogether sadistic and callous beyond words.
Then again there are those of us who would admit to acting the same with him should we be allowed to be locked in a room with him.
Blood = boiled!

I am not condoning or supporting his behavior at all.

However I don't feel the need to have such an immature outburst.

Muzza1875 · 5 Dec 2011 at 22:15

bhavv said:
If you think it is then feel free to browse youtube and flag several years old of live feeding to pet snakes as inappropriate or illegal and get them banned.

So far, they are still on there with age restrictions.

By your definition, National Geographic and other such wildlife channels are illegal. So is hunting, as that is killing animals for entertainment purposes isnt it?

Also, read the best answer here:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100423113529AANGY3p

One area where the USA law is actually better then our furrysexual nanny state.

Are you trolling? NO PERSONAL ATTACKS

bhavv · 5 Dec 2011 at 22:50

wannabedamned said:
inhumane treatment to animals.

Animals that we kill for food are killed in more inhumane ways than a snake killing its prey in a few seconds.

In fact death by a venomous snake bite would likely be far less painful and less stressful to its prey than many of the methods that humans use to slaughter the animals we eat everyday.

How is a predatory animal killing its prey 'inhumane' in anyway? It makes zero difference if the event was natural, or a person feeding a pet snake, the act itself is not an act of inhumanity, its a snake doing what snakes do and people observing the effects.

cm1179 said:
this person has also drowned a kitten too

Whether he has or not is still unknown. News reports have stated that the snake feeding video was done by a man, and the kitten drowning video by a woman, so how can you be so clued up over such ambiguous news reports?

Also I'm treating this thread as though it is purely to do with feeding one animal to another carnivorous animal. If you want to discuss the other news reports of drowning / suffocating cats you should separate the two into seperate topics as they are both widely different acts and vastly different in terms of 'animal cruelty'.

Judging by the emotional responses in this thread, it seems to me that any time a pet cat hunts down a bird or a mouse, that cats owner should be lynched, arrested and fined / jailed for cruelty towards the dead bird / mouse.

G18241 said:
any snake owner with more than 2 brain cells will not do it as it is more expensive then feeding pre-frozen and is a serious health risk for your snake.

Having read into this a bit during this discussion, some types of snake (venomous ones) can only eat live prey as they need to inject their digestive enzymes into it before consuming the animal. Also some snakes will refuse to eat dead animals and will only eat live ones.

Cleeecooo · 5 Dec 2011 at 22:57

bhavv said:
Animals that we kill for food are killed in more inhumane ways than a snake killing its prey in a few seconds.
not really!

In fact death by a venomous snake bite would likely be far less painful and less stressful to its prey than many of the methods that humans use to slaughter the animals we eat everyday.

How is a predatory animal killing its prey 'inhumane' in anyway?
an animal's doing it
It makes zero difference if the event was natural, or a person feeding a pet snake, the act itself is not an act of inhumanity, its a snake doing what snakes do and people observing the effects.

But the thing is, a snake, normally, wouldn't eat a cat. It would eat a herbivore!!

Muzza1875 · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:01

bhavv said:
Judging by the emotional responses in this thread, it seems to me that any time a pet cat hunts down a bird or a mouse, that cats owner should be lynched, arrested and fined / jailed for cruelty towards the dead bird / mouse.

Pffft lol whatever, cool story bro.

bhavv · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:01

Cleeecooo said:
But the thing is, a snake, normally, wouldn't eat a cat. It would eat a herbivore!!

Well, naturally speaking, if cats had never been domesticated and were still wild they probably would.

Im not sure if the snake is capable of telling whether its prey is a herbivore or a carnivore.

cm1179 · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:02

bhavv said:
Well, naturally speaking, if cats had never been domesticated and were still wild they probably would.

and we'd still be bashing women over the head with clubs and dragging them to our caves.

Skillmister · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:06

Cleeecooo said:
But the thing is, a snake, normally, wouldn't eat a cat. It would eat a herbivore!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5999091/Pet-cat-eaten-by-13ft-python.html

bhavv · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:07

Skillmister said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5999091/Pet-cat-eaten-by-13ft-python.html

Thanks for the link, I'd actually already read that recently, but forgot about it.

Cleeecooo · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:10

bhavv said:
Well, naturally speaking, if cats had never been domesticated and were still wild they probably would.

Im not sure if the snake is capable of telling whether its prey is a herbivore or a carnivore.

Oh, I agree with that bit, but generally, the snake would eat herbivores. You're essentially forcing it to eat something that isn't normally part of its diet. yes, it'll eat it, but it should be eating herbivores ideally

clv101 · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:11

Wow, 550+ comments on here? What's the big deal. I just read the Sun article, it's crazy "sicko", "twisted pet owner", "monster"...

All the guy (or gal) did was feed their snake a live animal. That it was a kitten is totally irrelevant in my book, if it's okay to feed any live animal it's okay to feed a kitten. Trying to separate mice from rats, from kittens, from chicks makes no sense at all.

Sure, it's not a nice thing to see, and I certainly wouldn't feed one of my cats to a snake! But rationally, I think the outburst from the Sun and some of the posters here is way over the top.

bhavv · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:13

Cleeecooo said:
Oh, I agree with that bit, but generally, the snake would eat herbivores. You're essentially forcing it to eat something that isn't normally part of its diet. yes, it'll eat it, but it should be eating herbivores ideally

No you are wrong. Did you see #553?

Snakes do / will eat cats. They cant tell if its a herbivore or carnivore.

Skillmister · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:16

Cleeecooo said:
Oh, I agree with that bit, but generally, the snake would eat herbivores. You're essentially forcing it to eat something that isn't normally part of its diet. yes, it'll eat it, but it should be eating herbivores ideally

Seems to me like a snake will eat whatever a snake feels like eating, i.e whatever is available. That story above isn't the only similar one btw, read one the other day about a wild snake in Aus (iirc) that came in through an open door and ate a house cat

cm1179 · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:16

clv101 said:
Sure, it's not a nice thing to see, and I certainly wouldn't feed one of my cats to a snake! But rationally, I think the outburst from the Sun and some of the posters here is way over the top.

well, i'm glad the country reacts in this way. and long may it continue in the event of similar acts.

Gilbert89 · 5 Dec 2011 at 23:17

Foxtrot26 said:
playing devils advocate here but whats teh difference between feeding a rat to a python and a cat?

Haven't read the entire thread this may have been said, but the fact this man lured his kitten to the snake for the snake to then strangle the kitten to death then to swallow it whole is pure evil and sickening really.

I watched the video on a news website it was then removed a day later.