Muslim girl gang escape jail after judge hears 'they weren't used to drinking because of their relig

G J · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:25

To all the guys saying he would've never got near my girl... So if this guy had knocked them all out could you imagine the headlines along the lines of man goes to jail for protecting his girlfriend.

Not to mention all the white knights would've went crazy.

Robbo · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:29

G J said:
To all the guys saying he would've never got near my girl... So if this guy had knocked them all out could you imagine the headlines along the lines of man goes to jail for protecting his girlfriend.

Not to mention all the white knights would've went crazy.

I'd rather risk going to jail than let my girlfriend have her head kicked in...

arctine · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:30

Castiel said:
Watching the video, there seems to be something more going on......the girls who attacked, if it was for a laugh or because the were drunk wouldn't hang around, or stay around to get punched by the boyfriend (who seemed pretty useless and not that bothered tbh, if it were me, they wouldn't have got near my wife)

Are they sure that these people didn't know each other or that something had not sparked off earlier?

I don't think anybody can answer that. (Though many people on this thread seem to have already made up their minds.)

While i'm not going to draw any conclusions from that video nor from the daily fail article, i'd be very surprised if 3 girls randomly attacked a girl. What i'm saying is, there was probably a lot more to it than portrayed.

One thing i won't accept is that these girls are walking away simply because they were drunk. That doesn't happen, muslim, christian, whatever.

It is obvious that the media has put a twist on this story to firstly, sell more papers but coincidentally, fuel the ever increasing, small minded attitude towards immigrants in this country.

What i am saying is, there is no way a judge's decision was hindered by the fact that these girls were muslim and drunk.

Castiel · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:31

G J said:
To all the guys saying he would've never got near my girl... So if this guy had knocked them all out could you imagine the headlines along the lines of man goes to jail for protecting his girlfriend.

Not to mention all the white knights would've went crazy.

Who cares what people think.....the safety of my wife is paramount. Besides self-defence is a valid legal defence.

Abraham · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:36

groen said:
This a great example of why deporting people back to their countries of birth should be done before considering other penalties, there was also no compensation for the victim, as usual.

Did these Somalians even show any remorse ? What is stopping them from doing it again in another years time?

1) You have no indication that their country of birth was not the UK.
2) There will have been the same compensation made available to anyone who is illegally injured, I only know how it's handled for unsolved cases, but I have no doubt it's not any less to the victim if the case ends in prosecution. It's just not newsworthy because it's a statutory amount dependant on injury and affect.
3)Do you have anything to say that they didn't show any remorse? Personally for a judge to have not dismissed comment about them not drinking frequently (even if it wasn't considered as evidence) then it must have shown as different to the character they presented in court. Which it could easily be expected would have shown remorse, if only under legal guidance.

Abraham · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:40

starkill3r said:
Across London, Black and Asian children outnumber White British children by about six to four in state schools. However, White children represent 62 per cent of London's 1,498,700 population aged 0 to 15 as of 2009 estimates from the Office for National Statistics, with 55.7 per cent of the population aged 0 to 15 being White British, 0.7 per cent being White Irish and 5.6 per cent being from other EU White backgrounds. In January 2005, a survey of London's ethnic and religious diversity claimed that there were more than 300 languages spoken and more than 50 non-indigenous communities which have a population of more than 10,000 in London. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show that, as of 2010, London's foreign-born population is 2,650,000 (33 per cent), up from 1,630,000 in 1997.

33% up in 14 years, another 14 years it will be 66% and so forth.

first, that's not how population spread works, second your contrasting figures in your first statement, either show that you're wrong, or that a substantial percentage of white children in London go to private schools.

domthecondom · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:42

FFS this country is vile! I am polish and obviously don't agree with racist attacks!

I just don't get the british justice system....why do the british have less rights than then people who come from different places??

Political Correctness gone WRONg to the max

Orcish-Horde · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:47

They got away with it due, not to the colour of their skin or their religion, but due to their gender. If that was men doing that they were doing it would have been jail.

Abraham · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:50

Orcish-Horde said:
They got away with it due, not to the colour of their skin or their religion, but due to their gender. If that was men doing that they were doing it would have been jail.

I can guarantee there are equivalent cases of women attacking women where they have been imprisoned, I think it's probably likely there are cases of muslim women attacking a white woman where they have been imprisoned.
Daily Mail aside I don't know why there would be any assumption that the ruling was swayed by their religion, race, nationality (if they are 1st gen immigrants), gender or anything else. I'm not saying a judges decision is beyond question, but I'm not in a satisfactory position to question it and nor are the vast majority of people going on diatribes here.

bhavv · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:52

G J said:
To all the guys saying he would've never got near my girl... So if this guy had knocked them all out could you imagine the headlines along the lines of man goes to jail for protecting his girlfriend.

Not to mention all the white knights would've went crazy.

My karate license used to say I am allowed to use any of the skills I learnt in defense of myself or anyone else.

Though I'm a slowpoke now, I could have still punched those hags in easily with the ensuing rage I would have had in that situation, they were pathetically slow and useless.

cheets64 · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:53

Ironic thing is if they did that in Somali they would have been beheaded.

In the UK, a slap on the wrists.

Moley · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:55

bhavv said:
My karate license used to say I am allowed to use any of the skills I learnt in defense of myself or anyone else.

My license used to say the same, however the law says otherwise.

Tefal · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:58

Moley said:
My license used to say the same, however the law says otherwise.

No it doesn't, the law says you can use any reasonable force to defend yourself or others.

trigger-happy · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:58

cheets64 said:
Ironic thing is if they did that in Somali they would have been beheaded.

In the UK, a slap on the wrists.

I'm sure you get whipped not beheaded lol.

anything I don't mind · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:58

After watching the video that guy should have knocked those girls out. If i was walking with a girl and four primitives came and started attacking her, they would end up on the floor. :|

Tefal · 6 Dec 2011 at 17:59

Abraham said:
Daily Mail aside I don't know why there would be any assumption that the ruling was swayed by their religion, race, nationality (if they are 1st gen immigrants), gender or anything else.

because the judge said it was.

Adrianr · 6 Dec 2011 at 18:03

Castiel said:
Alcohol or no alcohol, religion or no religion, racist or not racist....

They are criminals who severely assaulted another girl and they should have been punished accordingly, the Judge has made a serious error of judgement here.

Absolutely this. As you say, even with the obligatory Daily Mail spin, the core facts of this case are very disturbing indeed.

RopAyy · 6 Dec 2011 at 18:03

Castiel said:
Who cares what people think.....the safety of my wife is paramount. Besides self-defence is a valid legal defence.

Agreed, and i know we have the GD brigade screaming he's no man, looking at him on the vid he was **** faced and could barely move, under the circumstances he didnt do too bad!

Im with you though, had i been with any loved one i would have incapacitated them or done the best i could, female or not id much rather face charges myself and know my loved one was injured as little as possibly then try be PC and risk their face getting kicked!

bhavv · 6 Dec 2011 at 18:14

I kind of realized how drunk he must've been after watching again, he fell over so much!

SuperTronNarwhal · 6 Dec 2011 at 18:21

How are they Muslim?