Another tram experience... 96 year old WW2 veteran beat by a black man, gets no jail time
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Even the Reporter say's fellow passenger what's colour got to do with it
I would like to know how many people have DD on there ignore list
how about a swap DD leave and bring back Britboy vote please
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The same that being a veteran has to do with it, not a lot. But it makes the headline more striking
Absolutely - though I meant on the age not the fact he was a veteran.
I agree with this post. However much I deplore violence, and however much the unwarranted attack on a vulnerable and honourable man saddens me deeply, we have to consider the options carefully and the best result would probably not come from imprisoning him.
But your temporary 'pleasure' might lead to dire consequences for a great deal of other pensioners.
Which is probably a sad indictment of the failings of our clumsy prison system.
So wrong, but so funny XD
Its only racism if the punch is thrown because of the colour of someones skin....
Well to be fair GD does need it now and again otherwise it gets a tad boring in here...im awaiting our next batch of anti muslim/islam threads to crop up any day soon
Well to be fair GD does need it now and again otherwise it gets a tad boring in here...im awaiting our next batch of anti muslim/islam threads to crop up any day soon
The Daily Mail drives GD forward.
they'd have been too scared to do anything, can't blame them.
what is going on with this country? the still at the end of the clip seems to incite something.
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Probably not but it's taken a few of us on here to point that out to people, what do you think his peers take on his sentence is? Seemingly getting away scott free.
So what you are saying is that judges take that prisons dont work as a given, thus it's best to not imprison people.
Whether prison works or not is a different matter. If they don't then we should be addressing that instead of not attributing justice to where it's deserved.
Since we are NOT doing anything to change the prison system we should not expect judges to make arbitrary decisions like "oh, but in prison he will get worse, so I think I should leave him off" etc. No sane judge should think of it in such a way, that's ridiculous.
Whether he would get worse in prison or not is not for us or anybody to tell. You can't make assumptions like that when people are brought to justice for a crime they've done. Therefore this angle is completely wrong, and unfortunately it seems to have become a much wider accepted viewpoint, as in "oh, let's not aggravate the thugs because they will only get worse, so we might as well appease them to avoid further trouble". Well, that attitude sucks, bigtime, and the fear of criminals is the reason why we built prisons in the first place, to remove them from society. Now we are afraid to put criminals into prisons in case they become worse when they get out?!
The perpetrator's behaviour was completely socialy unacceptable and indicates severe issues. You can't just let him off like that.
If I had been there I would have beaten the little **** unconscious, pity nobody on the tram was as brave as that war vet once was. There's a certain tragic irony to that pathetic yob bullying a guy who once risked his life standing up to bullies.
"The public would be better protected from the man by treating him, rather than giving him a jail term". Tbh, I don't think many of the public are scared of a man who punches a frail 96 year old, but I think a vast majority would like to see him suffer for it.
Good on the kids that chased reported him, did nobody else do anything though?
Good on the kids that chased reported him, did nobody else do anything though?
Why it common though to immediately think that a white person attacking a black person is a likely racist attack, whereas when the opposite happen we wait for much more proof before thinking about it?
There is a lot of racism harboured towards white people (and mostly other races) from other races, especially senior citizens who have not integrated. Most people seem oblivious to its existence and think that a non-white can never be racist.
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And this is based on what exactly?
Which is why we should take the nordic approach to rehabilitation (the type that works).
Then sending him to prison would actually serve a purpose, also time should be spent to assess the persons mental state - if they are still deemed unfit to return back into the public they should have to stay until they are.
Public safety & rehabilitation for the purpose of prevention should be the two driving factors of our judicial system, not revenge or justice.
no you wouldn't, you may have wanted to (as would i) but the risk part of your brain would click and say 'the blokes just thumped an old man, in front of a lot of other people, he's probably got a knife on him and i could end up getting really hurt here'.