Another tram experience... 96 year old WW2 veteran beat by a black man, gets no jail time

[ubersonic]

no you wouldn't, you may have wanted to (as would i) but the risk part of your brain would click and say 'the blokes just thumped an old man, in front of a lot of other people, he's probably got a knife on him and i could end up getting really hurt here'.

Erm, no I stated what I would have done above

I would have made sure he didn't have a chance to go for any weapon, I'm not stupid

 

[Wolfe777]

no you wouldn't, you may have wanted to (as would i) but the risk part of your brain would click and say 'the blokes just thumped an old man, in front of a lot of other people, he's probably got a knife on him and i could end up getting really hurt here'.

Actually most people (white ones at least) would not hit him for fear of severe reprisals from a sickeningly liberal system that we endure.

I reckon if a white man stepped in and beat the crap out of the attacker, the end result would be that the black guy would still get off scot free and the white guy would get a prison sentence for his troubles.

Also I agree 100% that if it was a white thug hitting a 96 year old black guy, that white thug would be in prison as a result, quite rightfully so.

It's just a massive indictment of our society that the reverse is not true.


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[James J]

The guy deserves a good battering, however Im not sure its just because hes black.

This. His colour has nothing to do with it, his attitude has everything to do with it though.

 

[fez]

no you wouldn't, you may have wanted to (as would i) but the risk part of your brain would click and say 'the blokes just thumped an old man, in front of a lot of other people, he's probably got a knife on him and i could end up getting really hurt here'.

The problem is that so few people are willing to step in when something like this happens that anyone who does, tends to stand on their own.

If we as a society were less tolerant of this sort of thing happening then it would happen less frequently. I don't mean the faux outrage that always follows, I mean people standing up for each other.

If that guy had hit the old man and 5 guys had beat the **** into him then he probably wouldn't do it again. If people knew that they would be backed up by the strangers around them when something like this happens, people would step in more.

As you can see, the guy walks free and thinks its all a good laugh. Prison wouldn't have helped. A damn good beating would have. I am not a violent person but more and more I am coming round to the idea that some people only respond to violence and see peoples unwillingness to act as a weakness to be exploited.

 

[Brookert]

I would have got stuck in if I saw that, did no one step in on the tram? Thats disgusting behaviour.

 

[Tombstone]

I would have got stuck in if I saw that, did no one step in on the tram? Thats disgusting behaviour.

There was much gnashing of teeth, disapproving looks and post-combat shaking of heads and muttered negatives.

 

[Solomon23]

Judge is a tos..... Lives in cloud cuckoo land.

What kind of society have we become that allows scum like this to bully and batter the old and weak......it makes one worried about becoming old and infirm

 

[markweatherill]

" better protected from the man by treating him, rather than giving him a jail term".

That suggests mental health issues.

 

[neil_g]

I would have got stuck in if I saw that, did no one step in on the tram? Thats disgusting behaviour.

agreed. 2 school kids had to chase the guy ffs.

i hope some vigilante action comes his way.

 

[Deluxe1]

People like him should be euthanized.

 

[Richy1204]

Another scumbag that needs shooting.

 

[Fenris]

I would have got stuck in if I saw that, did no one step in on the tram?

He was trying to get off the tram when he hit the guy, he hit him and legged it, people chased him and alerted the police, he was then arrested.

Please try to grow up, problems are not solved by "getting stuck in". Chances are him being beaten would have made his chances of jail time even lower.

 

[Deluxe1]

problems are not solved by "getting stuck in".

Thats right because problems are solved by going up infront of a Judge who lets you off scott free.

 

[Pate]

no you wouldn't, you may have wanted to (as would i) but the risk part of your brain would click and say 'the blokes just thumped an old man, in front of a lot of other people, he's probably got a knife on him and i could end up getting really hurt here'.

I'd be more concerned about reprisals from the police to be honest.

 

[neil_g]

He was trying to get off the tram when he hit the guy, he hit him and legged it, people chased him and alerted the police, he was then arrested.

Please try to grow up, problems are not solved by "getting stuck in". Chances are him being beaten would have made his chances of jail time even lower.

tell you what if youre getting the stuffing beaten out of you we'll just walk on by and shout "dont worry, if we dont step in he might get more jail time if any.."

 

[Fenris]

Thats right because problems are solved by going up infront of a Judge who lets you off scott free.

Well if you want to make yourself as bad as the scumbag in the story be my guest, just don't come whining to the world when you quite rightly get done for assault, "they deserved it" is not a valid legal defence.

tell you what if youre getting the stuffing beaten out of you we'll just walk on by and shout "dont worry, if we dont step in he might get more jail time if any.."

There is a very large difference between stopping someone causing another harm and acting like a thug and taking justice in to your own hands. Of course if given the chance someone should have prevented the guy doing what he did, however no one was given that opportunity in this case as it was one punch followed by the guy running away.

 

[cheets64]

Raging here, if I saw that happened I would lay into him. Disgusting, vile human being, London is a hell hole.

 

[Burnsy2023]

He was trying to get off the tram when he hit the guy, he hit him and legged it, people chased him and alerted the police, he was then arrested.

Please try to grow up, problems are not solved by "getting stuck in". Chances are him being beaten would have made his chances of jail time even lower.

I think I'll disagree with you there. We are often disapproving of things like this, but most people will have the ability to intervene and either citizens arrest the offender until the police arrive or at least protect the aggrieved against further harm. People are understandably nervous about doing this for numerous reasons such as fear of prosecution, fear of personal violence and others. That said, if more people were willing to get involved, the police would have more witnesses and the offenders may think twice about doing it.

 

[Fenris]

I think I'll disagree with you there. We are often disapproving of things like this, but most people will have the ability to intervene and either citizens arrest the offender until the police arrive or at least protect the aggrieved against further harm. People are understandably nervous about doing this for numerous reasons such as fear of prosecution, fear of personal violence and others. That said, if more people were willing to get involved, the police would have more witnesses and the offenders may think twice about doing it.

Please don't get me wrong, this is certainly not what I disagree with, in fact I feel it is the duty of anyone who can to intervene in these situations to people who can't do it themselves, it's the idea of people deciding to "lay into" the offender that strikes me as pathetic thuggery.

 

[ubersonic]

it's the idea of people deciding to "lay into" the offender that strikes me as pathetic thuggery.

Depends on your pov, it strikes me as punishment fitting the crime and a much better outcome than the jail term he got out off anyway.