Soldato
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I agree. Sounds desperate. Some people deserve a pay review and are afraid of asking.
Asking for a payrise - how to play it?
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I agree. Sounds desperate. Some people deserve a pay review and are afraid of asking.
Yeah, I think in the past I was a little naive and thought that going the extra mile would be "noticed" and I would be offered an incentive to keep doing so...
I have since realised that we live in the real world...
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Your work will be noticed, and if they are a good employer, that would bear in mind your extra work, therefore making a better case/reason for a review.
You're certainly lucky to have a job.
You're either a Managing Director of a company, or jobless. These are the only 2 groups of people i've heard say this.
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In this economic climate you'll struggle depending on how their P&L is looking and if they're ahead of budget or not and how they have forecast for next year.
Have you hit your targets too? Sick days etc.?
Have you hit your targets too? Sick days etc.?
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I would make sure you are able to explain what and how you have taken on more responsibilities etc, and also that you've taken the opportunity to review your finances and that to be able to do the things you want to do you would need to be on $x - as such are you able to be moved up to $x.
If they say no, then you can ask what it is that you need to be doing to be able to justify that level of pay, and when can you start
IMO it's a more pro-active way of asking for a pay increase plus even if they come up with some excuse not to give you more money right then you are ready and able to pin them down to criteria which can be used at a later date to justify a raise.
It also raises the point in the managers mind that although you are happy now, you are open and ambitious enough to be considered for opportunities for more responsibility and therefore better pay - which means that your name will be one discussed when positions like that come up but also it puts the thought in the managers mind that you have ambitions and that if the current company doesn't meet them then you will be looking elsewhere - but in an assertive and cooperative manner.
A diplomatic way of doing it!
A diplomatic way of doing it!
Yeah, thanks for that Rich_L I will probably go with a similar method.
Just an update on this one chaps,
I applied for a job - interviewed and got it! pay is a fair bit better aswell as the prospects
Have handed in my notice - I wonder if I will be offered a pay rise to stay...
Surely it would have made more sense to announce the job offer and say you will be forced to leave if you don't get a pay rise?
Congrats anyway
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If you're on good terms with your manager politely let them know that you're looking for work elsewhere purely for financial reasons. It's polite to let them know you're looking for new work anyway and also you've not asked them for anything, if you're valuable to them a pay rise will come your way.
Just seen you've got a new job anyway, congratulations!
Just seen you've got a new job anyway, congratulations!
Surely it would have made more sense to announce the job offer and say you will be forced to leave if you don't get a pay rise?
Congrats anyway
Nah I hate when people do that, it just creates a bad air between people normally if they keep using it as an excuse to get a pay rise.
If he hadn't been given a pay rise (assuming this as he's leaving) then it was probably for the best instead of taking the pay increase to stay at your current job and then being in the same position in a year or so?
Just my opinion tho.
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I'd happily do it. We all work for money - if they are underpaying me then there is a problem they should fix. If they don't want to fix it then I'd leave.
You shouldn't feel any obligation to treat your employer nicely when you have the option to leave to a better possition.
My friend did this recently and still left when they offered to match the new job's salary. Too little, too late.
Don't get me wrong, I leave if I want to be paid more I just don't like the idea of asking for a pay rise and them going no, then getting applying for a new job then going "oooh look, pay me this or I'll leave".
If the company I'm working for won't give me a payrise I'll be leaving and since finishing uni I've had a pay rise every year of employment
KaHn
Don't get me wrong, I leave if I want to be paid more I just don't like the idea of asking for a pay rise and them going no, then getting applying for a new job then going "oooh look, pay me this or I'll leave".
If the company I'm working for won't give me a payrise I'll be leaving and since finishing uni I've had a pay rise every year of employment
KaHn
It depends on how it's approached - I don't think it would come accross like that if done tactfully.
Also, nicely done!
I had a girl that worked for me a couple of years ago, she used all her paid holidays but wanted to got to Egypt for 3 weeks to help sort out a visa for her new husband (long story) so asked for unpaid leave.
I gave her 4 weeks, she came back 3 months later (now pregnant) and ask if she still had a job.
I agreed to let her come back and still pay her maternity but she was not happy 2 months later when I did not give her a pay rise come her annual pay review.
Some people lol!
I gave her 4 weeks, she came back 3 months later (now pregnant) and ask if she still had a job.
I agreed to let her come back and still pay her maternity but she was not happy 2 months later when I did not give her a pay rise come her annual pay review.
Some people lol!