***** The Official Fifa 12 Thread *****

The refs in this game are absolutely shocking, and I hate that they have harsh ones and lenient ones. You don't want variation in a bloody game, you just make one ref who calls it offside if it actually is offside, who stops the game for a card instead of stopping a decent attack, running 40 yards up the pitch and then just waving his arms and telling them not to do it again, it's ridiculous.

They need to tweak the way the advantage works as well, sometimes they seem to play advantage for an age and other times they hold their arms up, you lose the ball straight away and they just let the play carry on instead of bringing it back for the free kick. The same with offsides, so many times my opponent has a man behind my defence, he passes from around the halfway line, my defence intercepts and I have a great chance to counter attack except the ref has blown up for offside even though the opposing player isn't obstructing play and didn't even receive the ball.

Also, HOW THE HELL CAN I HAVE FOULED A PLAYER WHEN I HAVE THE BALL?! This isn't real life, I can't stick my arms out or elbow people when I'm running with the ball, so why is it that time after time the ref has given a foul against my player when my player is the one that's had the ball. Usually because the impact engine is so frigging retarded. :mad:
 
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hilly said:
The majority of the bugs in 11 are still in 12. For example, the corner bug. Where randomly the view from a corner will just set back by about 20 yards. Random passing is another bug, it's difficult to play a first time simple ball. Tends to fly off in a random direction.

Movement switching bugs are still there, get used to switching with the right thumb stick.

Sometimes you can't select one of your strikers on your opponents goal kick.

Referees have no clue what the last man is. Countless penalties against me and the person who has fouled me hasn't been sent off, even though there's no one else around. Keepers NEVER get sent off.

That's what you get a penalty that is, I've lost count of how many times I have been clattered in the box and nothing given.
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that corner camera isn't a bug, its a stadium thing, certain stadiums have different camera angles.

keepers cannot get sent off online, because it would be abused by people, if you know how to run up to a keeper and do a certain skill move or turn, it would be a instant red, therefore do it in a match and they lose their keeper and a man down, it would make for bad games.

i dont seem to suffer from this switching bug mutch either, sometimes it doesn;t switch to the person i want it to, but the AI has to guess which player i want to control, i dont think that will ever be in the game until voice control or mind control technology is released.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
what do you have switching set to?

auto? manual? crosses only?

there are different ref's for a reason to make it more realistic, some ref's in real life are harsh and some are lenient, the game is trying to be as realistic as possible, maybe you should stop fouling?
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I have manual switching, and assisted crosses.

I understand the concept behind the varying referees, and I'm not particularly talking about the variation between them as much as the ridiculous decisions. It may be realistic to have different types of referees, but it's the actual referees themselves which isn't realistic.

Ha, I don't foul a lot because I know how to play the game without it. However, you get your bizarre fouls where a player will win the ball fairly, foul. Or they'll run near eachother, foul. I'll kick the ball, foul.

...and then they pass the ball back to the keeper inside the box, he picks it up. NO FOUL. :D

sometimes it doesn;t switch to the person i want it to, but the AI has to guess which player i want to control
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It would make sense for it to cycle through the players closest to the ball/action rather than either not switching at all, or switching to someone miles away.
 
Sonny already have song and. Enrique in subs I never use custom as it never saves

Also is a lw more likely to stay forward than a lm in the lm
Position even if the same player or does it solely go on df stats
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
The refs in this game are absolutely shocking, and I hate that they have harsh ones and lenient ones. You don't want variation in a bloody game, you just make one ref who calls it offside if it actually is offside, who stops the game for a card instead of stopping a decent attack, running 40 yards up the pitch and then just waving his arms and telling them not to do it again, it's ridiculous.

They need to tweak the way the advantage works as well, sometimes they seem to play advantage for an age and other times they hold their arms up, you lose the ball straight away and they just let the play carry on instead of bringing it back for the free kick. The same with offsides, so many times my opponent has a man behind my defence, he passes from around the halfway line, my defence intercepts and I have a great chance to counter attack except the ref has blown up for offside even though the opposing player isn't obstructing play and didn't even receive the ball.

Also, HOW THE HELL CAN I HAVE FOULED A PLAYER WHEN I HAVE THE BALL?! This isn't real life, I can't stick my arms out or elbow people when I'm running with the ball, so why is it that time after time the ref has given a foul against my player when my player is the one that's had the ball. Usually because the impact engine is so frigging retarded. :mad:
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variation is there for realism.

i do agree with the offside one though, but i suppose it is extremely hard to program into a game, i think if the player is within a certain vicinity of the ball, it gets called offside, even if you want to play advantage, they should have made an IF statement (lol) if opposing team has ball, dont call off side, if not then offside.

there are small issues they need to iron out but the game is quite polished imo.

the only thing i dont like is random penalties, some things are penalties and other's aren't even though they look the exact same.
 
Gackt said:
Anyone else find that sometimes you get stuck switching players? There'll be a long ball heading over to one of their players, and one of yours just a little behind them, you'll go to press RB to switch player and it doesn't switch at all so that player just fannies about behind doing nothing?
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Yep I get that quite often. I also don't like the way it auto switches my players from time to time. I set auto switching to only do it for air balls but it does it whenever it feels like it. Example, I would be using secondary pressure to get David Luiz to contain the attack whilst I use Kompany to marshall the free space so it forces the attack out wide but whilst doing that it decides to switch to Luiz and I end up running away from the attacker and leaving a gaping hole. :mad:
 
bigjonnyauk said:
Sonny already have song and. Enrique in subs I never use custom as it never saves

Also is a lw more likely to stay forward than a lm in the lm
Position even if the same player or does it solely go on df stats
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it will go on attacking and defensive work rates

not the position, some RB's and CB's have high attacking work rates, which means even though they are defenders they bomb up the pitch as if they are high on cocaine maradona style
 
jesta said:
Yep I get that quite often. I also don't like the way it auto switches my players from time to time. I set auto switching to only do it for air balls but it does it whenever it feels like it. Example, I would be using secondary pressure to get David Luiz to contain the attack whilst I use Kompany to marshall the free space so it forces the attack out wide but whilst doing that it decides to switch to Luiz and I end up running away from the attacker and leaving a gaping hole. :mad:
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if one of your players get within say a foot or two of the ball or the ball starts rolling towards them, it automatically switches sometimes, i think the AI thinks that player is going to gain possession so it auto switches. but if the player is just jockeying within a couple of feet, then no switch.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
that corner camera isn't a bug, its a stadium thing, certain stadiums have different camera angles.
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It's not to do with the stadiums, for instance I've had it happen at the Allianz Arena, Stamford Bridge, HSV and a few of the generic ones, it's a bug that's been in the game since last year. Sometimes it gives you the correct camera but once in a while it gives you a ridiculous, zoomed out, fish eye lens. Also there's a bug when if it's raining and you get a corner the lense of the camera will be smeared with raindrops and the whole picture is blurred, you can't see a thing. Wait, let me guess that's just to make it more realistic right? :D

Psycho Sonny said:
keepers cannot get sent off online, because it would be abused by people, if you know how to run up to a keeper and do a certain skill move or turn, it would be a instant red, therefore do it in a match and they lose their keeper and a man down, it would make for bad games.
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Come off it, I can count on one hand the amount of times that my goalkeeper has had a yellow card in this game, it's probably about three because people hardly ever have enough time to get clear of my defence AND do a trick to fool the keeper into tackling them. The only people that would really affect are the terrible players who usually lose heavily anyway. In the first round I often beat people by 9 or 10 goals, will it really matter if their goalie gets sent off? For everyone else it won't make a difference.

Psycho Sonny said:
i dont seem to suffer from this switching bug mutch either, sometimes it doesn;t switch to the person i want it to, but the AI has to guess which player i want to control, i dont think that will ever be in the game until voice control or mind control technology is released.
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I get the switching bug ALL THE TIME, especially when defending corners and it's the most frustrating thing in the game. I see someone tall like Pique or Mertesacker or someone, and I see my default formation is forcing a shortass to cover him, but wait a minute! I have a giant in my team and I want him to go and stand by Pique so he can win the header instead, what's this? It keeps switching between Valbuena and one of the other seven dwarfs even though my super tall player is only a yard or two away from them? Fail.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
It's not to do with the stadiums, for instance I've had it happen at the Allianz Arena, Stamford Bridge, HSV and a few of the generic ones, it's a bug that's been in the game since last year. Sometimes it gives you the correct camera but once in a while it gives you a ridiculous, zoomed out, fish eye lens. Also there's a bug when if it's raining and you get a corner the lense of the camera will be smeared with raindrops and the whole picture is blurred, you can't see a thing. Wait, let me guess that's just to make it more realistic right? :D



Come off it, I can count on one hand the amount of times that my goalkeeper has had a yellow card in this game, it's probably about three because people hardly ever have enough time to get clear of my defence AND do a trick to fool the keeper into tackling them. The only people that would really affect are the terrible players who usually lose heavily anyway. In the first round I often beat people by 9 or 10 goals, will it really matter if their goalie gets sent off? For everyone else it won't make a difference.
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i'll be honest with you, i tried to get keepers sent off countless times in UT 11 until someone told me, it was impossible lol.

also i will be honest again, i got that rain smeary thing and thought it was there for realism lol.

if that is a bug then im gobsmacked, they should have actually put it into the game, obviously it's not that bad in real life, and you can see clearly even when it is raining like hell, but having it in the game would be fun imo, it adds to the skill involved in crossing at corners.


what is this corner bug then? explain it in detail? is it the dodgy zoomy out camera? where the players all look like ants? i thought that was a stadium thing.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
if one of your players get within say a foot or two of the ball or the ball starts rolling towards them, it automatically switches sometimes, i think the AI thinks that player is going to gain possession so it auto switches. but if the player is just jockeying within a couple of feet, then no switch.
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Ah right, I'll try and bear that in mind whilst I'm defending then. Cheers.

K1LLSW1TCH said:
I get the switching bug ALL THE TIME, especially when defending corners and it's the most frustrating thing in the game. I see someone tall like Pique or Mertesacker or someone, and I see my default formation is forcing a shortass to cover him, but wait a minute! I have a giant in my team and I want him to go and stand by Pique so he can win the header instead, what's this? It keeps switching between Valbuena and one of the other seven dwarfs even though my super tall player is only a yard or two away from them? Fail.
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I get that all the time as well. I basically know when I'm going to let a header in now during a corner. If I can't switch to one of my CBs after the 3rd attempt it means the opponent has a free header. Also I found a lot of people have realised this because they tend to wait a while to see whether your CB moves, if they do they will switch corner takers so you have to reselect your CB and whilst doing that they can swing a cross in and your whole defence will just be standing there doing nothing.
 
The most bizarre thing with 12 is that when I first played the game and gave my missus a game, she got her keeper sent off, then ever since, nothing, not sure if it was a glitch or something but 100% he got sent off.
 
I would personally like to see a bit more customisation kinda like Master League in PES. Maybe custom kits? Custom stadiums? Custom badges? A bit more depth in managing your club, even if it's mostly for aethestics like audience numbers/announcements, logos, adverts, etc.

Maybe a kind of league, like they have in H2H seasons? A way of measuring up against other players, aside from just how much you can buy and sell players? Deeper stats, in-game and out, assists, clean sheets, possession stats, passing. Maybe a better intro, showing player pictures like they do in the BPL, your current record with goals scored, that sort of thing, something to compare to eachother as you warm up. Commentaries about injured players, using names instead of "that important guy is out" or "there's a new guy!".

I'd also like to see cup games actually presented properly. All the games are played like a bog-standard generic cup match, even the final. And when you do get the final in a single player tournament, and you win, the celebration is so pathetic that it's not even worth watching. No epic trophy lifting, no players medals, the tiniest bit of commentary, ridiculous.

I wish I worked at EA Sports. .-.
 
Gackt said:
I would personally like to see a bit more customisation kinda like Master League in PES. Maybe custom kits? Custom stadiums? Custom badges? A bit more depth in managing your club, even if it's mostly for aethestics like audience numbers/announcements, logos, adverts, etc.

Maybe a kind of league, like they have in H2H seasons? A way of measuring up against other players, aside from just how much you can buy and sell players? Deeper stats, in-game and out, assists, clean sheets, possession stats, passing. Maybe a better intro, showing player pictures like they do in the BPL, your current record with goals scored, that sort of thing, something to compare to eachother as you warm up. Commentaries about injured players, using names instead of "that important guy is out" or "there's a new guy!".

I'd also like to see cup games actually presented properly. All the games are played like a bog-standard generic cup match, even the final. And when you do get the final in a single player tournament, and you win, the celebration is so pathetic that it's not even worth watching. No epic trophy lifting, no players medals, the tiniest bit of commentary, ridiculous.

I wish I worked at EA Sports. .-.
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Really like the sound of that, be really cool. Except the last one, if I lose I do not want to sit there whilst a guy who beat me with sweaty goals celebrate. Also as it's EA what would happen is you watching the celebrations and when you go back to the FUT Menu you get the "Lost connection, returning you to Main Menu". :mad:
 
Psycho Sonny said:
what is this corner bug then? explain it in detail? is it the dodgy zoomy out camera? where the players all look like ants? i thought that was a stadium thing.
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It's basically what you just said, where the camera goes really zoomed out and all the players are tiny! It only happens now and again for me though, probably about the same amount as the rainy smeared camera. :mad:

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You know, I think next year PES will be a decent game, this year it was way better than 2011, they listened to some of the complaints and tried to fix a few things, it's still pretty damn horrible but I think if they spend the entire year fixing things and listening to people it'll be a decent enough game next year. Like you, I only wish that FIFA had it's own version of Master League. :(
 
If they could take injuries out of UT that'd be great, such a stupid stupid concept. Ideally fitness and contracts as well.
 
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