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Is Nvidia 3D Vision worth buying
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Your 580 is great for 3d vision. It will about halve your frame rate because if you were getting 100 fps before then now you will get 50 fps per eye for a total of 100 fps overall. If you were to get 3d I'd say get 3d vision 2.0. And yes in my opinion 3d vision is worth it. It's just brilliant on games rated good and above. If you play blizzard games like wow, Starcraft 2 and diablo3 then I'd say 3d vision should be a requirement. The worlds they've created just come alive in unimaginable ways! 3d vision shines evermore when you've got adjusted tO it and max out on dePth and convergence settings. But it's still great out Of the box.
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I dont use NVIDIA but the 3D on my LG 42" Plasma with my 6950 TOXIC is outstanding. I love it. Obviously you have got 1st party support for all your games etc but yeah 3D is brilliant in games.
3D is 100% worth it, with 3D Vision being the best 3D solution available.
And yes, 3D work's great with SLI cards. My friend has SLI 460's and games run beautifully in 3D on his system. Obviously occasionaly there are games that need new drivers for SLI etc, but it is no worse when putting 3D into the mix which is what i think you were getting at.
And yes, 3D work's great with SLI cards. My friend has SLI 460's and games run beautifully in 3D on his system. Obviously occasionaly there are games that need new drivers for SLI etc, but it is no worse when putting 3D into the mix which is what i think you were getting at.
I run quad SLI surround and it does have caveats.
It's kind of like sex when you're married..
It doesn't happen very often, but when it does it's awesome.
In other words, surround and 3d won't work often, but when they do it's fantastic
Just know that sometimes a game simply won't support it or like it. You may be able to botch/patch your way to victory but it won't be perfect.
It's kind of like sex when you're married..
It doesn't happen very often, but when it does it's awesome.
In other words, surround and 3d won't work often, but when they do it's fantastic
Just know that sometimes a game simply won't support it or like it. You may be able to botch/patch your way to victory but it won't be perfect.
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hate it, 3d is a gimmick and doesn't work in most games, in the odd couple of games that it does work you have to turn off certain features to get rid of glitches (like HBAO) and even then it is good for the first 5 minutes of "WOW! 3D" and then you realise you're constantly getting killed in multiplayer because you're too busy looking at the 3d
i paid out the best part of £300 to get 3dvision monitor and glasses and less than 3 months on my glasses just sit in a draw and I can't be bothered to get them out because I actually enjoy playing the game with 3d turned off
i paid out the best part of £300 to get 3dvision monitor and glasses and less than 3 months on my glasses just sit in a draw and I can't be bothered to get them out because I actually enjoy playing the game with 3d turned off
Oh absolutely, it's far from problem free.
You also need to take into account a developer's approach to it (and SLI, and more than 2 cores on a CPU ETC).
Do I want to sit down and spend money (because time is money after all) on making this game do something that 5% of the gaming market will use?
And the answer is usually always a resounding "no".
Skyrim *still* doesn't use more than 2 GPU cores, doesn't support surround or Eyefinity (hack hack hack your way to a win) and so on.
Most (if not all) of game developers don't even see DX11 as worth while. It's all time and money, and for what? 80% of their money comes from console game sales. Unless they like showing off (Batman AC, AA etc) or are under some sort of obligation with Nvidia then you've had it.
None of these PC based gimmicks will ever become mainstream.
Cash is where the heart's at, and that is consoles. The PC is, at best, the red headed stepchild. Lots of developers don't even bother with it any more, so why would they spend time and money over a luxury that a tiny minority use?
Sure, Nvidia might get a couple of devs to do it for them (to sell their cards on) but most wouldn't bother.
For years and years PC owners have been sold stupid worthless gimmicks. Physx? what's the game count on that now? three? CUDA (at last call Just Cause 2 might have used that?) and so on.
The thing holding back PC gaming is Direct X. It's designed to make it easy to cross compile games between the PC and consoles, just how M$ likes it.
So as I maintain. Get 3D, get Surround. Don't expect it to become a thing of the future, or to be treated with any kind of respect from Nvidia ETC. These things are nothing but a marketing ploy to make you buy their products. I should know ! I own two GTX 295 co ops. They were £450 each 16 months ago (I didn't pay that mind) and were being pimped as the future (quad SLI).
Here we are 16 months later and the last three driver releases break the cards completely. The shadows are broken, areas of games plain black, and Nvidia's idea of service is simply to fill their drivers with ads for BF3 and making you buy 5 series.
It's laughable. They rip £900 out of you and 16 months later they're telling you to throw all that in the bin and go and get different cards.
Quad SLI still has issues, and they don't care fo fix them. It wasn't about actually displaying what four GPUs could do, it was about selling you four GPUs.
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People gotta try the asus vg278h with 3dv2.... All the advantages with none of the drawbacks
3D is a gimmick to some people, i myself feel it gives "depth" to the game. It helps you be involved with it. I dont think its a must have. I think its an extra and its there when you want it and can afford it. Its like everything, people like it people dont. Nvidia have done well with the 3d vision and made it support lots of games even games that where released before 3d became mainstream.... They fix and add new games, what more can you ask for? i didnt expect them to come up with nvidia vision 2. The glasses lenses are wider which was needed for the large 27 inch monitor. They also felt more comfy over my own glasses. Its defiantly an improvement over the old one. If it was such a gimmick then why have they upgraded to make the experiance more richer, and fixed the brightness problem with the first 3d vision? they do seem to care about 3d gaming. To me its the best and only way to get in to 3d.
As for 3 surround, who would run 3d surround on one card anyway? you would have to turn the settings to extreme low with a res of 800x600 just to get fps. You would be nudged into getting a 2nd card just to get the full experience of high graphics in 3d.
As for 3 surround, who would run 3d surround on one card anyway? you would have to turn the settings to extreme low with a res of 800x600 just to get fps. You would be nudged into getting a 2nd card just to get the full experience of high graphics in 3d.
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I didn't mean gimmick as in stupid and irrelevant. I meant that basically that is how it is viewed by the people that matter - the people making the games.
I've no doubt it's incredible. I run surround and aside from the fact that it ruins your desktop and isn't worth living with (unless you have a dedicated game only PC to use it on) the end result can be incredible.
But, so many games that come out don't even understand the resolution, let alone work properly on it. Thankfully I used some common sense and bought 3 1368x768 19" monitors. All three ran me £130, and I bagged a second EVGA 295 co op from my mate in the USA for £70 delivered.
£200? worth it for the few games that it works well with. TBH? even one (Dirt 2) would have made it worth that much.
But I certainly wouldn't sell all of my other stuff and so forth and think for one minute that it was going to become a household standard.
I bought an Acer monitor to replace my dead monitor recently as it came with integrated Nvidia 3D and i am blown away by the results, miles better than I expected.
BF3 in 3D is excellent fun and I'm looking forward to seeing if it add a pop to the upcoming Star Wars MMO too
BF3 in 3D is excellent fun and I'm looking forward to seeing if it add a pop to the upcoming Star Wars MMO too
SWTOR wasn't bad in 3d. No issues I can remember but wow in 3d is incredible. Rift was terrible, though. It doesn't support it by the looks of it. Warcraft 3 and age of empires have excellent support from what I hear, despite being old games. Not tried em yet. Gotta get them reinstalled.
I've never really been a fan of 3D, I think it's too gimmicky at the moment for it to become the standard and replace "normal" TV.
Plus I object to playing stupid prices to see a 3D film at the cinema when a standard ticket is already £7!!!
Plus I object to playing stupid prices to see a 3D film at the cinema when a standard ticket is already £7!!!
I have read on here a few times you mention how good WoW is with 3D Vision. When I play WoW with 3D vision my cursor renders at the wrong depth and causes me to have to keep refocusing and it becomes quite tiring on the eyes and uncomfortable, do you not have this issue?
WoW while using Tridef doesn't have this problem and looks amazing!
I've only played Skyrim in 3D so far and I don't like to play without it now.
It has the odd quirk (stars at night) but it adds so much depth to the image that it has been worth it. This is 3D Vision 2 with the ASUS VG278H. More than bright enough and minimal ghosting only under certain circumstances.
It has the odd quirk (stars at night) but it adds so much depth to the image that it has been worth it. This is 3D Vision 2 with the ASUS VG278H. More than bright enough and minimal ghosting only under certain circumstances.
Yeah i'd never use 3D for competative multiplayer, its definitely too distracting.
The thing is for those kind of games you turn off the 3D and enjoy super smooth 120hz, which is the best thing for competative multiplayer games!!
So either way the cost of the tech is in no way wasted, you get immersive "wow" 3D single player and super fast smooth multiplayer.