Another tram experience... 96 year old WW2 veteran beat by a black man, gets no jail time

Castiel said:
:rolleyes: Is the personal attack really necessary? Like I said, If I saw something like this happen, then I would intercede, either before it escalated to violence if possible, or by calling the police and attempting to detain the offender if not...by the footage, no-one did anything, with the offender attacking the elderly man and then leaving when the tram arrived at the next stop sithout a single person on that Tram doing anything.........it took children to do something....children!!!

There were people right next to the victim and directly behind and to each side of the offender....

Grow up and make a sensible comment instead of personal attacks.
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Don't worry, most of us knew what you meant mate
 
Castiel said:
Then it belongs in the other thread relating to the Woman on the Tram.......but then, the reality is that you used this as another excuse to vent your ideology only you are not honest enough to admit it.

The bottom line is that neither mans colour is relevant to the assault or how it was dealt with.[/QUOTE]

Bang on.
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R420LA6X2/4MNA said:
Perhaps the rules should be re-considered then, I find it hard to see DD as anything but racist.
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Even though I want to wash his mouth out with soap & water he has a right to his views and we have a right to attack him back for them (with no insults).

It is very easy, if it's a DD thread then don't click on it or post in it then it will soon fizzle out and if it just contains the 3 racists just posting crap it can be locked.
 
kgi said:
So what you are saying is that judges take that prisons dont work as a given, thus it's best to not imprison people.

Whether prison works or not is a different matter. If they don't then we should be addressing that instead of not attributing justice to where it's deserved.

Since we are NOT doing anything to change the prison system we should not expect judges to make arbitrary decisions like "oh, but in prison he will get worse, so I think I should leave him off" etc. No sane judge should think of it in such a way, that's ridiculous.

Whether he would get worse in prison or not is not for us or anybody to tell. You can't make assumptions like that when people are brought to justice for a crime they've done. Therefore this angle is completely wrong, and unfortunately it seems to have become a much wider accepted viewpoint, as in "oh, let's not aggravate the thugs because they will only get worse, so we might as well appease them to avoid further trouble". Well, that attitude sucks, bigtime, and the fear of criminals is the reason why we built prisons in the first place, to remove them from society. Now we are afraid to put criminals into prisons in case they become worse when they get out?!

The perpetrator's behaviour was completely socialy unacceptable and indicates severe issues. You can't just let him off like that.
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Best comment on this thread, i whole heartidly agree. It's disgraceful
 
Is Croydon the only constant with these Tram things? haven't the racists learned anything?

Move away from Croydon or stop using the trams
 
Why did a white woman with a CHILD who looked quite clearly drunk was arrested over Christmas, her child probably taken away to social services and her life essentially ruined arrested for shouting some racial slurs which weren't even directed at anyone in particular and a black man in his 40s knocks someone out and essentially almost kills him because of the health consequences on a 97 year old doesn't even get a day in prison?


Ethnic minority status are fair, stuff like this makes me so angry it's not even funny. I would love to see what happened to me if I punched a black man.
 
cheets64 said:
I have no problem with other countries, I do have a problem with the current immigration of this country and how its turned certain parts of the UK.
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I hope you understand that these areas you speak of won't magically heal themselves if you start to replace everyone with white people. The last time I checked, there's still a healthy population of deprived, white scum in this country and they'll still be here when all the coloured folk are gone.

I don't like the immigration levels either, but all these people crying about it as if the whole country is run around their need to feel 'white' and 'british' is absurd. At the levels of power that actually matter, no one gives a toss about you or your white pride, it's all about who they can control and exploit and they'll give up anything to do that, including your sorry white ass.
 
titaniumx3 said:
At the levels of power that actually matter, no one gives a toss about you or your white pride, it's all about who they can control and exploit and they'll give up anything to do that, including your sorry white ass.
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Yeah we know. Doesn't mean we have to like it or be quiet about it.
 
Funny i can imagine you Ranting when you got pulled over by the Police again in you car nope on your Bike for drinking again it was you ? :p
 
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dirtydog said:
I don't post here very often, it isn't as if I'm making threads every day or even every week.

Or would you rather that only people with views you share are allowed to make threads :)
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I think you should be allowed to post what you like, I just wish it was more objective and not so biased towards a persons skin colour.....

By focusing predominately on the colour of someone's skin or making sweeping generalisations designed to promote White Northern Europeans over everyone else undermines anything of note or interest you have to say, which I think is a shame as Mass Immigration is an obvious issue that needs debating and unfortunately because people focus on the immaterial aspects like skin-colour it calls all debate on the subject into question.

In short, you, and those like you are the reason Govt and other Agencies are reluctant to discuss this in case they too are accused of bias and thus associated with supremacist viewpoints. You, and those like you make it unacceptable to be critical of immigration policies simply by associating it with racism and supremacist ideologies.......time to readjust your thinking and how you frame and present your argument DirtyDog and then some of us might be prepared to listen and consider what you have to say more seriously.
 
Castiel said:
I think you should be allowed to post what you like, I just wish it was more objective and not so biased towards a persons skin colour.....

By focusing predominately on the colour of someone's skin or making sweeping generalisations designed to promote White Northern Europeans over everyone else undermines anything of note or interest you have to say, which I think is a shame as Mass Immigration is an obvious issue that needs debating and unfortunately because people focus on the immaterial aspects like skin-colour it calls all debate on the subject into question.

In short, you, and those like you are the reason Govt and other Agencies are reluctant to discuss this in case they too are accused of bias and thus associated with supremacist viewpoints. You, and those like you make it unacceptable to be critical of immigration policies simply by associating it with racism and supremacist ideologies.......time to readjust your thinking and how you frame and present your argument DirtyDog and then some of us might be prepared to listen and consider what you have to say more seriously.
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Skin colour is but a small facet of race, educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_terminology_for_race

Whites (who don't even actually have 'white' skin, we aren't the colour of tippex) broadly means the peoples of northern Europe.

Blacks broadly means the peoples of Africa.

And so on.

And I'm not and have never been a white supremacist, which you can verify by reading any of my posts here past and present, or anywhere else on the web such as Stormfront.
 
The blame should lie with the judge or magistrate for allowing such a crime to pass off with such a lenient punishment. The criminals skin colour is by large an irrelevance. The thread title is purposely provocative to stir a response so it turns into a race crime.

Never argue with a fool (bigot or racist) as they will drag you to their level and beat you with experience every single time.

Would we have such a thread if it was two white youngsters fighting on a tram or a white man who committed the attack on the veteran then I would guess not.
 
Loki said:
The blame should lie with the judge or magistrate for allowing such a crime to pass off with such a lenient punishment. The criminals skin colour is by large an irrelevance. The thread title is purposely provocative to stir a response so it turns into a race crime.

Never argue with a fool (bigot or racist) as they will drag you to their level and beat you with experience every single time.

Would we have such a thread if it was two white youngsters fighting on a tram or a white man who committed the attack on the veteran then I would guess not.
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But that's the point. In this country, non whites typically get treated more leniently by the courts than whites do. Discrimination against whites, aka anti-white racism.

Do you think the tram woman should be languishing in prison today and over Christmas while people like this man, or that Somali Muslim gang who tried to kill that white girl by repeatedly kicking her in the head on the floor, walk away scott free?
 
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