This year's most improved poster?

[FnG]magnolia;20762500 said:
Two posters ruling themselves out of contention nice and early (and completely unsurprisingly). The tension, it's almost palpable (it's not).
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Posting about my changes in posting style, in a thread about changes in posting style. Shocking (it's not).
 
godinman said:
I've definitely gotten worse, I just lack the motivation to engage in a proper discussion on here. Sometimes I'll write a fairly long post, but half-way through I'll just think 'Oh, bugger it' and press the back button.

And then when I do manage to actually write something semi-coherent and press 'submit reply', if someone responds then more often than not I just can't be bothered to reply.

This is probably a good thing however.
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I have stopped posting in 'intelligent' debates on here for a reason - they aren't intelligent. It's the same few 'informed' characters knashing teeths over Wikipedia articles when they have next to no real life knowledge on the actual issue. I don't think there is anything wrong with forming your own conclusions, but being a google warrior doesn't make me or you informed. Climate change is always a classic, armchair experts unite!

Also, if you are really passionate about an issue, actually DO SOMETHING about it, because posting on here changes nothing for anyone.

I've thus become far more inclined to avoid speaker's corner entirely, it feels just like a waste of time. Now you will find me posting rubbish, but I'm not dressing it up as anything else :p
 
[FnG]magnolia;20762500 said:
Two posters ruling themselves out of contention nice and early (and completely unsurprisingly). The tension, it's almost palpable (it's not).
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I actually ruled out my getting worse as well ;)

However I have been here just over a year, and a lot of the first half of that I spent more time in GH than anywhere else. Although that's probably a good place to post really, helping people out etc... xD

Nitefly said:
I have stopped posting in 'intelligent' debates on here for a reason - they aren't intelligent. It's the same few 'informed' characters knashing teeths over Wikipedia articles when they have next to no real life knowledge on the actual issue. I don't think there is anything wrong with forming your own conclusions, but being a google warrior doesn't make me or you informed. Climate change is always a classic, armchair experts unite!

Also, if you are really passionate about an issue, actually DO SOMETHING about it, because posting on here changes nothing for anyone.

I've thus become far more inclined to avoid speaker's corner entirely, it feels just like a waste of time. Now you will find me posting rubbish, but I'm not dressing it up as anything else :p
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People use wiki and google to form opinions? hmm.... I just use my own stupidity. Seems to work just as well :)

kd
 
Tummy said:
Myself.

Permabanned was a good shout though.
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Lol pretty sure voting for your self doesn't help the cause ;)

I was going to give cheets a vote for at least trying to support the rambles against non Wigan-white people but irony might not be beat for this award... So go with the consensus of perma for now
 
Moses said:
Aren't they allowed to research, though? You mention climate change... but if only climate change experts were allowed to post, there'd be no threads on it (or maybe a thread with two people posting... I can't imagine there are many climate change scientists here).

Or does it depend what they Google? If they just look at the first Wikipedia page, that's probably not a good way of learning about a topic... but Googling and coming up with legit reports/journals/etc is better, no?

Someone said it before, and I agreed with them, when they said they thought Castiel, for example, learns as he goes when debating stuff. Obviously he has knowledge about x, y and z, already, but it seems he's willing to debate anything. So, if a, b and c topics come up, which he knows little about, he'll just read about them and post/post and read further at the same time.
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I have time for posting about things that are logically based or opinion only, because you can actually have an engaging and interesting disicussion about what approach my be best.

What annoys me are threads where opinions on subjects that require a serious amount of investigation are decided by a few select journals that no-one really had a clue how to interpret, yet people are ferociously opininated!!

Climate change and the validity of The EU are the ones that bring the most amusement. Once I swanned into a ferocious EU debate where all sides were agreed that all EU law had to be implemented by the Uk government before it could take effect, which as you know is utter nonsense. When I stated it was nonsense I was met with posts that made me seem like I was from the planet zog.

If you don't know what an Eu regulation is, you shouldn't be touching 'the validity of the EU' with a 100ft barge pole.
 
Moses said:
Someone said it before, and I agreed with them, when they said they thought Castiel, for example, learns as he goes when debating stuff. Obviously he has knowledge about x, y and z, already, but it seems he's willing to debate anything. So, if a, b and c topics come up, which he knows little about, he'll just read about them and post/post and read further at the same time.
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It's how people learn....there is a whole range of topics I know or knew very little about and I came across them being discussed in threads here and thought 'that sounds interesting' or 'that doesn't sound right' and so I go off, read a little, google a little, listen a little and form an opinion, come back and debate away, also within the debate people raise things that you hadn't considered and deserve further investigation so then I'll check what they are stating, and alter or form my opinion based on the new information. I see nothing wrong with that, in fact I think it is preferable to a lot of the entrenched positions we see in debates at the moment.

(I am currently learning all I can about Physics and a few other things I would like to contribute to, but do not know enough about currently to converse with some of the other posters or compete with their opinion....I'll teach myself though.)

I have my specific knowledge gained through experience in certain subjects and I think that shows when those subjects are under discussion, but that should not mean anyone should limit themselves to only discussing topics with which they have a personal connection or 'real life' experience of...

How would you learn new things?
 
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Nitefly said:
Climate change and the validity of The EU are the ones that bring the most amusement. Once I swanned into a ferocious EU debate where all sides were agreed that all EU law had to be implemented by the Uk government before it could take effect, which as you know is utter nonsense. When I stated it was nonsense I was met with posts that made me seem like I was from the planet zog.
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I had a topic like this just the other day!

No idea what it was about now, I just didn't bother revisiting the thread, but was highly frustrating....

kd
 
Castiel said:
How would you learn new things?
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Apologies for the abrupt edit but this is really what I was getting at with my OP. It's actually pretty fascinating seeing people (and there are people behind the words that we all read) stagnate or change. I think it's amazing but it's terribly subjective.

There are those who post what they like and balls to everyone else and I'm actually really down with that. I quite like it but it's not improvement.

There are those who post the same old stuff over and over and over and over again. That's not improvement.

There are those who modify what they post and how they interact with us and actually improve themselves. That's an improvement.

Anyone else got any recommendations for Most Improved Poster?
 
Moses said:
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, at all. I just meant that there aren't loads of ready-made experts on every field, but there are posters who look stuff up and make a good contribution. I was referring to you in a positive way, if that wasn't how it came across.
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No,no I wasn't offended at all, quite the contrary. I was just expanding on what you said and explaining how I go about debating a subject I find interesting, but do not generally or instantly know enough about.

I think it helps that I am a bit older than the average poster (I learned a long time ago that jumping in without enough information gets you shot) so have had time to experience and/or learn that little bit more.....and I read a lot (and I mean a lot) as well as study various things related to, but not necessarily associated with my particular area of professional interest.
 
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pingwing said:
Lol pretty sure voting for your self doesn't help the cause ;)

I was going to give cheets a vote for at least trying to support the rambles against non Wigan-white people but irony might not be beat for this award... So go with the consensus of perma for now
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I wasn't being entirely serious :p

Anyway, Cheets is hilarious at times, I'm not sure if it's intentional or not though :p
 
Castiel said:
...but that should not mean anyone should limit themselves to only discussing topics with which they have a personal connection or 'real life' experience of...

How would you learn new things?
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Moses said:
..but there are posters who look stuff up and make a good contribution.
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These are good posters types, I take no such beef with them. Perhaps it's just one or two individuals that spoil the barrel for me.
 
I think I'm a great poster. People very rarely agree with me, and I'll quite often post something and then to go work, forgetting I ever posted anything, but that doesn't matter. :o

Serious answer: I think PermaBanned would also be my vote.
 
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