'Big Man' tackles fare dodging teenager on train

Wizzfizz · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:12

Sigh, nevermind. You know what I'm getting at.

DanielMMS · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:18

Wizzfizz said:
Like I've already posted, if the yob had fallen and hit his head on the floor and seriously injured himself or even worse, what would happen?

Chances are the Big Man would be arrested and charged with assault occasioning ABH so up to 5 years in chokey. Possibly GBH but it would be difficult to prove intent.

Burnsy2023 · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:27

DanielMMS said:
Chances are the Big Man would be arrested and charged with assault occasioning ABH so up to 5 years in chokey. Possibly GBH but it would be difficult to prove intent.

It's certainly not GBH regardless of intent. It absolute worst it'd be ABH and even then prison time is unlikely.

Strife212 · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:27

Malc said:
Society has gone to the dogs? I for one think that we're in a pretty privileged state. However continue with your bleak outlook on life, I'm sure it'll make you very happy in the long run.

Gerard · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:27

Vonhelmet · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:34

Wizzfizz said:
Sigh, nevermind. You know what I'm getting at.

Then he might get charged with abh.

DanielMMS · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:34

Burnsy2023 said:
It's certainly not GBH regardless of intent. It absolute worst it'd be ABH and even then prison time is unlikely.

Depends on the seriousness of the injury caused in Wizzfizz's theoretical situation.

Xandos · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:41

Ahleckz said:
So they aren't the same, as you suggested.

Ticket pricing structure is stupid though, that much I agree with. My regular commute into university is £1.40 each way, or £1.60 return. I think that a price per mile fee should be introduced, but this would cause all sorts of issues and would only really work in localised areas.

Really think that 8% is worth mentioning?

Burnsy2023 · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:45

DanielMMS said:
Depends on the seriousness of the injury caused in Wizzfizz's theoretical situation.

I missed the theoretical situation.

Ahleckz · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:47

Xandos said:
Really think that 8% is worth mentioning?

Really think that if it isn't then you bringing it up is worthwhile?

The guy I was replying to stated that return and singles cost the same, which they don't. I was putting him right. I then developed my point by stating I find the pricing structures odd.

DanielMMS · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:49

Burnsy2023 said:
I missed the theoretical situation.

Ah. Yes, without the theoretical bit even ABH is very unlikely. A charge of common assault is a possibility but the CPS would probably let the matter quietly disappear.

Malevolence · 13 Dec 2011 at 16:53

To think, all this could've been settled by simply phoning ahead and having the Transport Police meet the guy at the station.

Richie · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:00

DanielMMS said:
Chances are the Big Man would be arrested and charged with assault occasioning ABH so up to 5 years in chokey. Possibly GBH but it would be difficult to prove intent.

Burnsy2023 said:
It's certainly not GBH regardless of intent. It absolute worst it'd be ABH and even then prison time is unlikely.

Wouldn't be ABH or GBH as these don't exist in Scotland

Serious assault or just Assault dependant on injury.

Vonhelmet · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:02

Malevolence said:
To think, all this could've been settled by simply phoning ahead and having the Transport Police meet the guy at the station.

As I said earlier, I've sat for literally hours on a stopped train waiting for the BTP to come and pick up some dumbass.

nydryl · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:16

Vonhelmet said:
As I said earlier, I've sat for literally hours on a stopped train waiting for the BTP to come and pick up some dumbass.

This. I remember sitting at Larbert (I think) for almost and hour waiting for the police to come. I'd have been quicker getting off the train and jumping on a bus.

Burnsy2023 · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:18

Richie said:
Wouldn't be ABH or GBH as these don't exist in Scotland

Serious assault or just Assault dependant on injury.

You Scots, and your crazy laws....

TNGL · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:20

Legend!

EDIT:
Just tried to watch it again... the cheek of the telegraph, trying to advertise on a video they ripped from YouTube.

ChroniC · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:24

I hate conductors, not because they're all see you next tuesdays, but because of one particular jobs worth. I ran for a 9am train, jumped on as the doors where closing without a ticket as I needed to travel, but was unable to move through the train to see the conductor because it was packed standing room only. At the gate to leave I explained my case to another conductor who fined me 20quid. I didn't try to jump the gates, I was in a suit so clearly wasn't a tramp, and was asking to pay my fair.
Would he use his brain and discretion, would he **** ****

Burnsy2023 · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:28

ChroniC said:
I hate conductors, not because they're all see you next tuesdays, but because of one particular jobs worth. I ran for a 9am train, jumped on as the doors where closing without a ticket as I needed to travel, but was unable to move through the train to see the conductor because it was packed standing room only. At the gate to leave I explained my case to another conductor who fined me 20quid. I didn't try to jump the gates, I was in a suit so clearly wasn't a tramp, and was asking to pay my fair.
Would he use his brain and discretion, would he **** ****

LOL. So it would have been ok to fine someone not as well dressed as you?

TNGL · 13 Dec 2011 at 17:34

Can the railways legally enforce the fines?