Dinosaurs are not real :(

Jay794 said:
....Didn't they just dig up a Baby Mammoth frozen in ice, perfectly preserved, with fur and everything? looks like the creationists were wrong, who knew? lol
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Mammoths are not really Dinosaurs though.....

I don't know whether they dug up a perfectly preserved dwarf mammoth either...got a link?
 
Yeah Mammoths went extinct as early as 10,000 years ago and roamed the planet long before then too. The reason they found a nicely preserved one in ice is because Dinosaurs didn't have the heavy coat mammoths did to be able to survive as well in the the harsh conditions of the Ice Age.
 
Castiel said:
There are some Christians participating in this thread who have been on the other side of my opinion on their belief and interpretations, notably kedge and jmc007 at one time or another. I approach this entirely from an academic perspective and not one biased by an agenda to either prove or disprove any particular belief.
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I just want to thank you Castiel by showing very intelligently how you don't have to be an angry Atheist and just because you are sure (like me) that a god doesn't exist in the form that is quoted by several religions it doesn't mean that a "god" cannot exist at all.

I like the quote "absence of proof is not proof of absence" made me rethink how I react to arguments that my very religious step dad brings up on a regular basis.

In the Last year I have gone from being an Angry Atheist like most people on this forum to one that can understand how some people need/want religion to help them through their daily lives and Im content in the knowledge that I do not.
 
linktoinsanity said:
However they are proof of the Ice Age aren't they?
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Geology and Chemistry also point to an Ice Age....I think you are basing your historical knowledge on a pixar film rather than anything else....;)

Mammoths existed from around 5 milion years ago to as recent as 4,500 years ago......not really in the same ballpark as Dinosaurs...
 
Not directed at you Castiel as you're being logical, but the to Christians among us

You're saying me that because a mammoth was found with skin and hair etc.... God must have put it there? as a test of faith, ok lets agree with that for a second.....

no wait, I can't evolution is a proven theory, how do you think all those people on the Bodyshock TV series developed extra limbs and dwarfism? it's evolution, not that we'll need 8 legs anytime soon it sort of proves that we're constantly evolving.

Or are you going to tell me that all those mutated people (not calling dwarves mutants btw) but are you saying that is a test of faith too?

If it is then God must be a very cruel kid with a magnifying glass...
 
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Castiel said:
Geology and Chemistry also point to an Ice Age....I think you are basing your historical knowledge on a pixar film rather than anything else....;)
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Lol. Actually I forgot about that film.

Mammoths existed from around 5 milion years ago to as recent as 4,500 years ago......not really in the same ballpark as Dinosaurs...
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There is both proof, physical evidence that both dinosaurs and Mammoths existed though. So anyone, religious or not that says the proof can't be true really can't be thinking things through properly.
 
Jay794 said:
no wait, I can't evolution is a proven theory, how do you think all those people on the Bodyshock TV series developed extra limbs and dwarfism? it's evolution, not that we'll need 8 legs anytime soon it sort of proves that we're constantly evolving.

Or are you going to tell me that all those mutated people (not calling dwarves mutants btw) but are you saying that is a test of faith too?

If it is then God must be a very cruel kid with a magnifying glass...
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but whilst it 'could' be seen as evolution, it would really be seen as a mutation?

Just to add some additional fire in here. Who said Eden was A) The only garden/place? B) That Eden was the first attempt?
 
linktoinsanity said:
There is both proof, physical evidence that both dinosaurs and Mammoths existed though. So anyone, religious or not that says the proof can't be true really can't be thinking things through properly.
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Quite, but Mammoths are not directly evidence of Dinosaurs...if you see what I mean....they are from two separate epochs and even Creationists can accommodate a Mammoth because the lived within their range of Geological Time.

That doesn't meant that Young Earth Creationist's are not absolutely and categorically wrong and that their entire theory is based solely on an erroneous literal interpretation of Scripture and their own misguided faith. Because that is plainly evident
 
jmc007 said:
Jesus was/is a real person Harry Potter is not. Fact. (Well not the HP in the books.)
Whether Jesus is God is up to you to find out.
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How do we know Jesus was a real person ? is there any contemporary literature with eye witness information ? No,
no person wrote anything for 100 years or so, except the fact that Jesus is pure fiction just like H.Potter.

There is no mention of Jesus in Roman records, no mention of him in crucifixion records, a man who supposedly walked on water, rose from the dead ,made cripples walk & the blind able to see & yet nobody wrote a single word for decades??????

Philo (20BCE-50AD) wrote 800,000 words on 30 manuscripts about Jewish life and on god, but failed to mention the god-man who supposedly performed miracles near where he lived.
 
Scougar said:
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but whilst it 'could' be seen as evolution, it would really be seen as a mutation?
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Evolution is mutation, same thing, when something evolves, it's cells have simply mutated

Scougar said:
Just to add some additional fire in here. Who said Eden was A) The only garden/place? B) That Eden was the first attempt?
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A) The Bible says B) AFAIK The Bible doesn't mention any other attempts

.....If you believe such things
 
stoke1863 said:
anyway i asked why we have fossils of dinousaurs that have been carbondated over 30 million years old and he told me that God planted the fossils on the earth as a test to see who keeps the faith.
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lol These people have an answer for everything.
 
Usher said:
How do we know Jesus was a real person ? is there any contemporary literature with eye witness information ? No,
no person wrote anything for 100 years or so, except the fact that Jesus is pure fiction just like H.Potter.

There is no mention of Jesus in Roman records, no mention of him in crucifixion records, a man who supposedly walked on water, rose from the dead ,made cripples walk & the blind able to see & yet nobody wrote a single word for decades??????

Philo (20BCE-50AD) wrote 800,000 words on 30 manuscripts about Jewish life and on god, but failed to mention the god-man who supposedly performed miracles near where he lived.
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I wouldnt mind knowing what he was like a child and teenager.

Funny I've not heard anyone talk about his younger years!
 
DAIR said:
I wouldnt mind knowing what he was like a child and teenager.

Funny I've not heard anyone talk about his younger years!
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I'd be interested to read about what Jesus did between the years of being born and becoming 30 something when he was crucified.

Probably omitted from the Bible due to all the anti-social behaviour and drug taking that he did lol
 
Jay794 said:
A) The Bible says B) AFAIK The Bible doesn't mention any other attempts

.....If you believe such things
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That the Bible mentions only one garden doesn't mean that there weren't many. That the Bible doesn't mention other attempts doesn't mean that there weren't many.

Must... tolerate... lack of... critical thinking...

*slump*

To be honest, I'm not even arguing the point. I'm just perplexed by your logic.
 
Vonhelmet said:
Carpentry, most likely, given that that was his family's trade.
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I want to know what he done and what he was like.

Was he ever naughty?

Did God have him every other weekend or did Joseph man up and take up the father role full time!?
 
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