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The only worry I have about this movie is that collectively, The Avengers are far too powerful.

If you take any baddie, in the history of movies, Iron Man and Thor could probably defeat, leaving the rest of the team to have a quiet night in. I can't even think of an enemy powerful enough which would put The Avengers (collectively), on their limit.

The Avengers, as they are now, are simply too powerful - they not only have brains (Dr Banner & Stark), they have Brawn/Power (Iron Man, Hulk, Thor), but they also have the spiritual World covered (Thor, with his Godly powers). The only weakness I can see is that they can't travel in time.

My understanding is that Loki will be the only baddie in this movie. If this is the case, the writers will have to "supe up" his powers, otherwise Thor alone should be able to deal with him (as he did in the first movie).

What do you guys think?
 
That is why Whedon has been put in charge imo. If you look at Buffy, who they were fighting was often irrelevant. You know she's going to win, it's the journey that matters. It's harder to do within a films limited timeframe but Whedon is the king at interaction between characters.
 
sunama said:
The only worry I have about this movie is that collectively, The Avengers are far too powerful.

If you take any baddie, in the history of movies, Iron Man and Thor could probably defeat, leaving the rest of the team to have a quiet night in. I can't even think of an enemy powerful enough which would put The Avengers (collectively), on their limit.

The Avengers, as they are now, are simply too powerful - they not only have brains (Dr Banner & Stark), they have Brawn/Power (Iron Man, Hulk, Thor), but they also have the spiritual World covered (Thor, with his Godly powers). The only weakness I can see is that they can't travel in time.

My understanding is that Loki will be the only baddie in this movie. If this is the case, the writers will have to "supe up" his powers, otherwise Thor alone should be able to deal with him (as he did in the first movie).

What do you guys think?
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I know what you mean.

They got their behind handed to them by Magneto in the Ultimate Universe but really there is very little that can tackle them.

Maybe Apocolypse? A character I am surprised has never been covered off before in these films.
 
sunama said:
The only worry I have about this movie is that collectively, The Avengers are far too powerful.

If you take any baddie, in the history of movies, Iron Man and Thor could probably defeat, leaving the rest of the team to have a quiet night in. I can't even think of an enemy powerful enough which would put The Avengers (collectively), on their limit.

The Avengers, as they are now, are simply too powerful - they not only have brains (Dr Banner & Stark), they have Brawn/Power (Iron Man, Hulk, Thor), but they also have the spiritual World covered (Thor, with his Godly powers). The only weakness I can see is that they can't travel in time.

My understanding is that Loki will be the only baddie in this movie. If this is the case, the writers will have to "supe up" his powers, otherwise Thor alone should be able to deal with him (as he did in the first movie).

What do you guys think?
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Hence the section at the end of Thor, after the trailers.

if you've seen Thor you'll know the bit I mean. If you haven't then
He is shadowing/controlling the old Professor that worked with Natalie Portman when Nick Fury shows them the Cosmic Cube which has great power.
 
sunama said:
The only worry I have about this movie is that collectively, The Avengers are far too powerful.

If you take any baddie, in the history of movies, Iron Man and Thor could probably defeat, leaving the rest of the team to have a quiet night in. I can't even think of an enemy powerful enough which would put The Avengers (collectively), on their limit.

The Avengers, as they are now, are simply too powerful - they not only have brains (Dr Banner & Stark), they have Brawn/Power (Iron Man, Hulk, Thor), but they also have the spiritual World covered (Thor, with his Godly powers). The only weakness I can see is that they can't travel in time.

My understanding is that Loki will be the only baddie in this movie. If this is the case, the writers will have to "supe up" his powers, otherwise Thor alone should be able to deal with him (as he did in the first movie).

What do you guys think?
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Err Thanos, Galactus, Ultron, The Shi'ar, Annihilus, The High Evolutionary, Mephisto, Onslaught, Apocalypse, The Void, The Beyonder, The Scrulls, The Kree, Brood, The Phalanx, A single member of the Technarchy alone is going to cause hell.

Seriously read your Marvel.

It is going to be an Alien race, so more likely is it is going to be either The Kree or the Scrulls, although I would hope The Shi'ar as Gladiator would pwn!


Out of that list it is unlikely to be Galactus, Apocalypse, The Phalanx, Brood, The High Evolutionary or the Technarchy. They are less Avengers and more Fantasic 4 (or whatever they are now), X-Men and Marvels greater universe.

I would say Thanos as well is unlikely, but having seen the last two movies he is pretty much tied to Cosmic Cubes etc
 
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PoD. We already know that the baddie in the movie is Loki. Galactus, Apocolypse, etc are not going to be showing up in this movie. We know this for a fact.

I have heard that Loki may have some form of an army to back him up (possiblyThe Scrulls), however, none of the trailers have shown anyone except for Loki.

I'm just puzzled as to how the producers of the movie are going to make an enemy powerful enough to get the audience excited about the possibility that the Avengers may lose this fight.

Even if you look at the XMen (first trio of movies), you will notice that the producers had to tone down the powers of the XMen. This was to ensure that they do not walk over their opponents with too much ease.

Also, we don't yet know just how powerful they will make The Hulk. In the comics, I believe, The Hulk is made to be nigh on indestructible. The greater the force he faces, the stronger he becomes.

I don't think I've ever seen so many comic book super heroes, all allied to fight for the same cause, in a motion picture before.
 
sunama said:
PoD. We already know that the baddie in the movie is Loki. Galactus, Apocolypse, etc are not going to be showing up in this movie. We know this for a fact.
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Actually we know Loki is manipulating events and the Aliens are DEFINITELY the Scrulls!
 
Looking forward to this, hoping it may spark a Justice League movie too.

Hopefully they will make Hulk half decent in this because the 2 solo movies were terrible.

Anybody want to see a Marvel Zombies movie?
 
The Cosmic Cube is going to be in this film. With that in mind, one needs not worry about the "power" of the bad guy because with one of those there's going to be chaos. Hence the need for a superteam.
 
I did see the cosmic cube at the end of Thor, however, we were never told about its "abilities". All we saw was Loki controlling one of the individuals investigating the cube.

What exactly is so special about the cosmic cube, which could challenge Iron Man, Thor and The Hulk (all on the same team).
 
Jay794 said:
Why doesn't this incarnation of the Avengers have Ant/Gaint Man and WASP?
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Because they have gone with the ultimates lineup...mostly because the studio didn't dare do Antman, although there was talk of it (all to do with selling power).
I believe they will consider it if this movie is a success, but the sad fact of the matter is that the marketing guys will have felt that a super scientist doesn't have the selling power of a god, super soldier, billionaire with an armoured suit or an unstoppable jekyll and Hyde.

It is obvious that Black Widow is in it just for the added sexy and Hawkeye has never been anything major in my mind.

So there are already two science geniuses in the movie, so adding another would be seen to dilute the thinking power of the other two and might have involved writing an intelligent well thought out plot instead of an explosion fest of super powers etc.
 
I noticed in the trailer there's a clip which shows Thor apparently attacking Captain America at 1:20. Wonder what that's all about.
 
Joss Whedon has revealed that The Avengers mainly takes place from the perspective of Captain America.

The director explained that Chris Evans's "ultimate loner" perfectly represented the team of outcasts assembled for his forthcoming superhero epic.

"So much of [The Avengers] story takes place from Steve Rogers' perspective, since he's the guy who just woke up and sees this weird-ass world," Whedon told Entertainment Weekly. "Everyone else has been living in it. He's the guy that feels that sense of loss.

"[The Avengers] is very much about people who are alone - because I'm writing it," he joked. "There is an anachronism to him, and Chris and I have always tried to, without making it goofy or too obvious, make him that same grounded '40s Steve Rogers he was in the other movie."
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Now whilst this news is hardly surprising as Captain America is the 'leader' of the Avengers we all know RDJ/Tony Stark is going to be the best thing about this film
 
Johansson's character is next to useless. She offers nothing.
Stark is "The Man".

This has to be my most anticipated film of this year.

I'm still worried that the main enemy in this is going to be too weak. The Avengers are stupendously strong. The amount of damage which Hulk on his own, could do is beyond imagination. To put it simply: Hulk is virtually indestructible and the greater the force he is up against, the more powerful he becomes. Add to this the brains of Stark, along with the mystical/Godly forces which Thor possesses...we shall need an extremely powerful villain to test The Avengers.

I'd have preferred the story to be told from Stark's point of view, as I felt Captain America was too "weak", though this won't necessarily be a bad thing, as the villain may not be powerful enough to trouble the other Avengers.

Anyway, it is quite possible that the producers may tone down the powers of the Avengers, in order to make them a little vulnerable to their foes...just to make the movie more exciting and any battles to be evenly matched.
 
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