Where to buy the MSI GTX580 Lightning in the United Kingdom.

[Jakus]

From the EVGA Forums.
posts by EVGA_JacobF EVGA Product Manager

The normal EVGA GTX580 Classified does NOT use binned chips.

The ultra I imagine is selected from the best 580 classifieds, so "selected"

EVGA is only a little company, I would doubt they have the resources to be grading cores prior to getting their custom cards built anyway.

 

[garsands]

The normal EVGA GTX580 Classified does NOT use binned chips.

The ultra I imagine is selected from the best 580 classifieds, so "selected"

EVGA is only a little company, I would doubt they have the resources to be grading cores prior to getting their custom cards built anyway.

I am not talking about the normal 580 classifieds as I have already said in my post above where I added the word ultra in red text just to highlight the fact.

You said that the 580 Classified Ultra are not speed binned.

This was unture & miss leading.

I posted ture quotes from the EVGA Product Manager.

I can not link the source of the quotes as the site has the same cards for sale as OcUK.

Just to clear up again I am talking about the Ultra card.

I dont understand why it's such problem that they are binned chips?
& you now feel the need to call them selected.

 

[Jakus]

I am not talking about the normal 580 classifieds as I have already said in my post above where I added the word ultra in red text just to highlight the fact.

You said that the 580 Classified Ultra are not speed binned.

This was unture & miss leading.

I posted ture quotes from the EVGA Product Manager.

I can not link the source of the quotes as the site has the same cards for sale as OcUK.

Just to clear up again I am talking about the Ultra card.

I dont understand why it's such problem that they are binned chips?
& you now feel the need to call them selected.

OK, Listen, I try the up-most to never say anything that i'm not 100% sure about
I'm not sure why your having trouble with what i've said, but I just went to the evga forum and got the following from the product manager that sounds like he does not know what binning is .......quote JackobF ref 580 Ultra

"What I mean by binned is this...

The 580 Classified card is tested to run at the shipping frequency. 855MHz, some will scale to 1000MHz.

The 580 Classified card is hand picked GPU's that are the cream of the crop and most should scale to 1000MHz. Default frequency is 900Mhz. "

I hope that satisfies you ?

Like I said before if they don't/can not speed bin the normal classified it would be unlikely the "ultras" would be anything other than "selected" and I was right

 

[Jakus]

We don't need to post links just put this following line in google for the whole thread

The 580 Classified card is tested to run at the shipping frequency. 855MHz, some will scale to 1000MHz

 

[garsands]

Screen shot of the said post.
I have added the red arrows & text inside + red underlined.

'Hand picked..... Cream of the crop.....' = binned

We don't need to post links just put this following line in google for the whole thread

The 580 Classified card is tested to run at the shipping frequency. 855MHz, some will scale to 1000MHz

And why are you still talking about the normal 580 Classified card @ 855MHz?

The ultra has a shipping frequency of 900MHz. as it's a binned chip.

Normal 580 Classified card shipping frequency of 855MHz not binned.

 

[Jakus]

Ok I see Your problem here You don't know what "binning" is do You ?

 

[garsands]

Please do tell.
As it seems EVGA Product Manager & myself need to be told.

 

[Jakus]

Sorry I missed Your second point, Obviously I know we are talking about the "ultra" card, the whole thread I quoted from was about the ultra.

the guy has called it the wrong name obviously

Bottom line the Ultra should be a better card, and I think we should leave it there.

 

[Jakus]

Please do tell.
As it seems EVGA Product Manager & myself need to be told.

Generally binning or speed binning is the testing and grading of the basic chip, sure you can grade stuff after it's made. If you take the MSI lightning which we are told has binned cores, If msi put lower grade chips in and the card could not make the spec what can they do ?..nothing scrap the card. On the other hand if they made 1000 reference cards they could then then grade them and sell the best with faster clock speeds.

The lightnings ship with a 1.00 v core @ 830mhz
The 580 Classifieds with a 1.15v core @ 850mhz

The Ultra's are selected from the best classifieds which do not have binned cores, sure you could call that binning but it's not the way it's generally understood .

I would say it's the very best way if You have the time and money because You are grading the finished product as opposed to fitting a cherry core to a board that may have poor components

Hopefully I made some sense

 

[Gibbo]

Does that mean there are no more EVGA 460s coming?

Production stopped months ago, there is only still stock around because some manufacturers made weay more supply than demand, hence some floating around cheap.

On high-end cards manufacturers take less risk and build only too demand. Hence why 580's will get slim on the ground as we approach February-March as no one will want to be stuck with them when the new range comes out.