The law, morality and what is deemed "ok"

Jay794

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So I was inspired by another thread about drink driving, to start my own thread about what people deem acceptable in terms of breaking the law

For the purpose of this thread I feel I should state that I am in no way contoning or advocating the use of illegal drugs or breaking the law in any way.

I am simply interested in what peoples opinions are.

Question 1
Is growing marijuana for personal use only ok? you're not selling it and you're not letting it interfere with your social or work life

Question 2
Is growing marijuana for medicinal use ok? I saw a program recently about a load of people with MS and other illnesses, they grew it themselves because they knew where it came from and it worked out cheaper than getting it from a dealer.

Question 4
If a women is raped, yet abortion is against her religion, should she keep the baby or not?

Question 5
Is it acceptable for a person to accept blood/organs to save their life, even though it's against their religion? (I like this question because to be honest, when it comes to live and death, religion can jump out the window lol)

Question 3 (none drug related)
If someone breaks into your house, what do you deem as "reasonable force" we all remember that farmer who shot the guy trespassing on his land, he got a prision sentance.

Question 6
Removing all of the drug and pimp related problems asssociated with it, should prostitution be legal in the UK?

Question 7
Is it ok to cheat on your other half? no matter what the circumstances

Please feel free to add you're own questions, theories and thoughts below.

Again, I want to state that I am in not contoning or advocating the use of illegal drugs or planning on growing it myself, I am simply curious.

Hope I haven't opened a can of worms here
 
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Most of OCuK infuriatingly deny that morality should be involved in lawmaking when in reality it's an absolute necessity because defining what harmful actions and what extent of harm should make an action criminal is entirely moral - harm is completely subjective.
 
FAO of anyone who is unaware of the OPS ignorance.

He compared growing weed for personal use to drink driving in a motors thread with the notion that it is, and I quote, "Only illegal if you get caught".

Should tell you all you need to know.

OPs thread is looking for in-direct affirmation of his own ridiculous standpoint on drink driving and that him doing it, knowing he is safe to drive is okay.

Nuff said.
 
Q1. yep.

Q2. Yep it helps with a lot of conditions especially stuff that requires pain relief.

Q3. The farmer shot him in the back while he was running away, hense the prison sentence.
Difficult question, I would say that reasonably force to get them to leave would be enough
not to cause him permenant damage.

ron talking about pot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjtL1xvcleA


check this out
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/weed-wars/

new tv show about the largest medical weed dispensary in the world

My question:
If you are travelling in a car at the speed to light and you switched on the
head lights , would it have any effect ?
 
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Sin_Chase said:
FAO of anyone who is unaware of the OPS ignorance.

He compared growing weed for personal use to drink driving in a motors thread with the notion that it is, and I quote, "Only illegal if you get caught".

Should tell you all you need to know.

OPs thread is looking for in-direct affirmation of his own ridiculous standpoint on drink driving and that him doing it, knowing he is safe to drive is okay.

Nuff said.
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Well the answer to that is that as well as being illegal, driving under the influence of alcohol or illegal drugs is Immoral, Irresponsible, Stupid and gets people killed.....like my friends 17 year old son Christopher, who was killed on Christmas Eve several years ago by someone who was both drunk and high and though it was a good idea to drive down a pedestrian street......

So no, it is not ok.....end of story.
 
Jay794 said:
I am simply interested in what peoples opinions are.

Question 1
Is growing marijuana for personal use only ok? you're not selling it and you're not letting it interfere with your social or work life

Question 2
Is growing marijuana for medicinal use ok? I saw a program recently about a load of people with MS and other illnesses, they grew it themselves because they knew where it came from and it worked out cheaper than getting it from a dealer.
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http://www.hark.com/clips/mffzblgqsx-aint-nothing-wrong-with-smoking-weed

Thats all I have to say on this matter. Case closed!
 
Sin_Chase said:
FAO of anyone who is unaware of the OPS ignorance.

He compared growing weed for personal use to drink driving in a motors thread with the notion that it is, and I quote, "Only illegal if you get caught".

Should tell you all you need to know.

OPs thread is looking for in-direct affirmation of his own ridiculous standpoint on drink driving and that him doing it, knowing he is safe to drive is okay.

Nuff said.
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Maybe so, but in this case its the individuals choice to drive while intoxicated that is wrong, you cannot place the blame for this on alcohol.

Considering morality - there is absolutely no link between either drinking alcohol or personal consumption of any substance and morality.
 
bhavv said:
Maybe so, but in this case its the individuals choice to drive while intoxicated that is wrong, you cannot place the blame for this on alcohol.

Considering morality - there is absolutely no link between either drinking alcohol or personal consumption of any substance and morality.
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What Sin failed to comprehend is the fact that I have never made the choice to drink and drive, he attempted to jump on me for saying good on a girl for getting away with it once and all of a sudden I'm the bad guy despire not ever doing it lol.

Can we get back on topic now after Sin's pointless rant?
 
oxygene said:
Theres only one thing I want to add to this thread and the answers already given:
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Meaning what? regardless of what I actually believe or do in my spare time, for the purposes of this thread I'm not attempting to justify the recreational use of drugs whether you're driving or not
 
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Glaucus said:
They shouldn't have to break the law.

Aren't they now trialing tablets with the active ingredients in.
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I think so yeah but at the moment, if the only way to get some pain relief is to have weed then what would you do in that situation, thats what I'm interested in find out in this thread.

NEW QUESTION ADDED, see first post
 
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Castiel said:
Well the answer to that is that as well as being illegal, driving under the influence of alcohol or illegal drugs is Immoral, Irresponsible, Stupid and gets people killed.....like my friends 17 year old son Christopher, who was killed on Christmas Eve several years ago by someone who was both drunk and high and though it was a good idea to drive down a pedestrian street......

So no, it is not ok.....end of story.
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I've lost three good friends to drink driving.

It's not okay.
 
Comes down to the benefit outway the possible prosecution.
Also would have to look at court cases to figure how much is safe to grow and if anyone's got of lightly for medical mitigation reasons.
 
Jay794 said:
What Sin failed to comprehend is the fact that I have never made the choice to drink and drive, he attempted to jump on me for saying good on a girl for getting away with it once and all of a sudden I'm the bad guy despire not ever doing it lol.

Can we get back on topic now after Sin's pointless rant?
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Oh ok. Similarly my dad was a reckless drink driver for over a decade. He would often get drunk, and then go cruising in his car while the rest of us were asleep.

On one occasion we woke up to find his car completely wrecked, and him in an even worse state. Somehow he manage to get a new car on insurance claiming he had been at home all night and that it was vandalised.

Only several years ago, he got caught drink driving and had his license banned. When I was discussing this with him, he was actually extremely happy and proud of himself stating 'But I've done it right because I've been drink driving all these years and never got caught until now'.

So if I understand correctly according to what I've read, somehow that makes me immoral and reckless too.


Tummy said:
I've lost three good friends to drink driving.

It's not okay.
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But thats their fault for being so reckless, and you really seem unlucky for having had them as friends in the first place. If I knew that someone was drink driving, I wouldnt consider them a friend anymore and wouldnt have any remorse for them if they got themselves killed.

To quote one of my (female) friends 'I think that people who drink and drive should be shot or executed before they end up running someone over. It might sound harsh, but I'd rather that they die before someone innocent does'.

I fully agree. Even in the case of the person I explained above.
 
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bhavv said:
So if I understand correctly according to what I've read, somehow that makes me immoral and reckless too.
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Yeah in Sin's mind I guess it does lol.

Personally, getting away with it isn't something to brag about, I don't consider you reckless or immoral because you haven't said whether you agree or disagree with your fathers decision, not that it matters here anyway.

Kenai said:
Moronic
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It was one time that she got away with it, and she didn't crash or kill anyone. If she does it again, she'll probably get caught
 
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