CPR with Vinnie

Luke · 4 Jan 2012 at 15:46

I know we have a youtube thread, but this is something that really should get as much airtime as possible.
As someone who has lost a parent to a heart attack, and someone who volunteers as a Community First Responder, basic CPR techniques like this should be known by everyone and this is a fantastic way to get the message across.

SexyGreyFox · 4 Jan 2012 at 15:48

Saw it on the news - excellent

OzyOly · 4 Jan 2012 at 15:52

It's great, stuff like this should be free-to-air on major TV channels. I have no doubt I will have to use this at one point.

They should also have an ad for what to do when someone is having a fit. I give advice that could have been fatal when a someone at work had a hypoglycaemic fit.

MeEsH BaKkA · 4 Jan 2012 at 15:53

Very good!

Skillmister · 4 Jan 2012 at 15:53

OzyOly said:
It's great, stuff like this should be free-to-air on major TV channels. I have no doubt I will have to use this at one point.

They should also have an ad for what to do when someone is having a fit. I give advice that could have been fatal when a someone at work had a hypoglycaemic fit.

Agreed. Some guy had a fit next to me in the gym and i had no idea what to do other than move stuff from around him.

flibbage0 · 4 Jan 2012 at 15:55

Brilliant stuff

OzyOly · 4 Jan 2012 at 15:56

Skillmister said:
Agreed. Some guy had a fit next to me in the gym and i had no idea what to do other than move stuff from around him.

Exactly. You're not suppose to put anything in their mouth, it could choke them and if they are diabetic they are likely having a hypo in which case you should NOT give them insulin, it'll put them in a coma. That was my mistake. Apparently you don't have a fit from having too much sugar... :confused:

Glaucus · 4 Jan 2012 at 15:57

Why have they removed the breathing?
I know they removed the initial breath as if the heart stops there's nothing removing the oxygen out the lungs. But after that?

CPR keeps changing, seems I'm out of date again. Although be up for retraining towards end of year.

The Dread Pirate · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:00

Glaucus said:
Why have they removed the breathing?
I know they removed the initial breath as if the heart stops there's nothing removing the oxygen out the lungs. But after that?

CPR keeps changing, seems I'm out of date again. Although be up for retraining towards end of year.

They haven't this is an instructional video for those who don't know full on CPR and someone goes into arrest and there are no trained folks near by, if you do know the full CPR routine then stick to it as it'll be more effective.

Castiel · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:01

According to someone I know in the medical profession....CPR is pretty useless on an adult, basically it just gives you something to do while the paramedics turn up with a defib....

I have heard that from more than one person in the medical profession as well......the survival rates outside of a hospital are in the single percentage figures apparently.

Maybe someone with a medical background can shed some light on that?

MeEsH BaKkA · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:02

Glaucus said:
Why have they removed the breathing?
I know they removed the initial breath as if the heart stops there's nothing removing the oxygen out the lungs. But after that?

CPR keeps changing, seems I'm out of date again. Although be up for retraining towards end of year.

It's not proper CPR it's to keep someone alive whilst the emergency services arrive by telling a untrained person how to do chest compressions properly. You will survive quite a while not breathing but having your blood circulated.

The main emphasis in this video seem to be press down HARD and not how everyone sees it happen on TV and in films.

Luke · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:02

The act of providing chest compressions draws enough air into the lungs without needing rescue breaths. The time lost by stopping compressions to give breaths causes the blood pressure to drop to levels which are far more of a risk than not providing more oxygen.
Obviously this is the case for single person CPR, not full CPR.

flibbage0 · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:03

Castiel said:
According to someone I know in the medical profession....CPR is pretty useless on an adult, basically it just gives you something to do while the paramedics turn up with a defib....

I have heard that from more than one person in the medical profession as well......the survival rates outside of a hospital are in the single percentage figures apparently.

Maybe someone with a medical background can shed some light on that?

I know people doing a degree in medicine.

Yeh the chances of getting someone out of cardiac arrest like that is very low, less than 10%

Glaucus · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:03

Castiel said:
According to someone I know in the medical profession....CPR is pretty useless on an adult, basically it just gives you something to do while the paramedics turn up with a defib....

I have heard that from more than one person in the medical profession as well......the survival rates outside of a hospital are in the single percentage figures apparently.

Maybe someone with a medical background can shed some light on that?

It is very low, or so are trainer said. But it does save a few. 1 in 500 is better than zeo (made up number)? But it's also not to. Get the heart beating again. It's to give as much chance as possible. For the paramedics to use a defib.

Cosimo · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:03

That is very good. It’s something we should all be able to do.

fadetoblack · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:04

Glaucus said:
Why have they removed the breathing?
I know they removed the initial breath as if the heart stops there's nothing removing the oxygen out the lungs. But after that?

CPR keeps changing, seems I'm out of date again. Although be up for retraining towards end of year.

Because they think there is plenty of oxygen in the blood it just needs to be circulated around. The states have been doing this for some time

The Dread Pirate · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:04

flibbage0 said:
I know people doing a degree in medicine.

Yeh the chances of getting someone out of cardiac arrest like that is very low, less than 10%

Indeed it's mainly to keep the oxygen flowing round so that If they do get revived theres less risk of oxygen starvation damage.

loltim · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:04

cool vid. 2 inches though?? better having a working heart than a broken rib though like he says.

MeEsH BaKkA · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:08

loltim said:
cool vid. 2 inches though?? better having a working heart than a broken rib though like he says.

Yeah, you have to compress the heart to pump the blood. I would expect the majority of the people to do what they know, which will be what they have seen on TV which for very obvious reasons is totally useless.

Castiel · 4 Jan 2012 at 16:11

fadetoblack said:
Because they think there is plenty of oxygen in the blood it just needs to be circulated around. The states have been doing this for some time

That is what I was told also, it helps keep the blood moving through the Aorta and other arteries by changing the pressure in your chest cavity which can help when it comes to restarting the heart with a defib and prolongs the time before permanent oxygen deprevation damage can occur....apparently it is far more effective in Children than Adults though.

I looked up the stats and it is as low as 4% for non trained or trained people without electrical defibs, about 15% with one and 30% in a high dependency hospital environment.... :eek:

Look after your heart ladies and gents....I don't like those odds.