gtx 560 ti 448 vs msi lightning 6970

tellmewhy99 · 4 Jan 2012 at 23:50

hi there, i wondered which one should i go with if i wants sli/crossfire?

and whats the different between tfIII and lightning 6970 other than price?
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lrlcr · 4 Jan 2012 at 23:51

If you have that sort of money I'd wait a week for the 7970 then add another when kepler is released and prices inevitably drop.

tellmewhy99 · 4 Jan 2012 at 23:58

no, not really wanted to go with 7970

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a student here

and with a 1080p monitor xD

chaotic_uk · 4 Jan 2012 at 23:59

tellmewhy99 said:
no, not really wanted to go with 7970 ,
a student here and with a 1080p monitor xD

a lot of the members here are students

, stay with a single card setup tbh (not as many problems)

lrlcr · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:01

but you want sli/crossfire? and yet on a 1080p monitor?

ALXAndy · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:03

tellmewhy99 said:
no, not really wanted to go with 7970 ,
a student here and with a 1080p monitor xD

Then quit with the SLI / Crossfire nonsense and get a single card.

There are bloody loads that can easily chew through any game at that res. Bringing on issues just for the sake of it will give you everything you deserve.

A single -

6970 2gb (of any sort).
A 1.5gb but preferably a 3gb GTX 580.
A 2.5gb 570
A 560 ti 2gb.
A 6950 2gb

All of those are more than up to the task of taking any game at 1080p and ripping its head off. Why you would want to add nothing but a problem in the second slot is beyond me :confused:

kissenger · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:04

At 1080p just one of those cards would be enough. I've got a 570 and it runs BF3 at that res, everything on ultra, 2xMSAA at around 55fps average.

If you do go multi-gpu, then the 6970 might be wiser because of the extra vram, but at that resolution it might not matter anyway (esp. because the 570 has more raw gpu power in many games, and that tends to be more important at sub-superHD resolutions).

tellmewhy99 · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:12

hmmm, i was hopping for more fps tho, xD, 1 gtx 560 Ti 448 would be sufficient? or 6970 lightning?

kissenger · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:14

ALXAndy said:
Then quit with the SLI / Crossfire nonsense and get a single card.

There are bloody loads that can easily chew through any game at that res. Bringing on issues just for the sake of it will give you everything you deserve.

A single -

6970 2gb (of any sort).
A 1.5gb but preferably a 3gb GTX 580.
A 2.5gb 570
A 560 ti 2gb.
A 6950 2gb

All of those are more than up to the task of taking any game at 1080p and ripping its head off. Why you would want to add nothing but a problem in the second slot is beyond me

A 1.3 Gb 570 is superior to at least two and probably three of those cards (the 560Ti and the 6950/70). Don't know why you left that out. Honestly mate, 2gb vram is not important at that resolution unless you run SLI.

tellmewhy99 · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:15

and.. i would like to have everything on ultra...

lrlcr · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:17

if you want to be safe, a 3gb 580 then.

kissenger · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:17

tellmewhy99 said:
hmmm, i was hopping for more fps tho, xD, 1 gtx 560 Ti 448 would be sufficient? or 6970 lightning?

Those are both great cards. The 448 is basically a 570 with one shader module locked. Barely any different in real world situations.

If you want more FPS I'd go SLI 6970, but I always hear people complaining about SLI micro-stuttering, and then there's the ATI driver issues (incl. long delays in drivers for the latest games).

If I was you I would probably just get either a 448, 570 or single 6970 and stick the rest in the bank as a future upgrade monies.

tellmewhy99 · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:17

i thought 2 x 560 Ti 448 better than a gtx 580?

tellmewhy99 · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:18

how about sli? will it less problem than crossfire?

arc@css · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:19

tellmewhy99 said:
how about sli? will it less problem than crossfire?

No, it's slower.

tellmewhy99 · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:21

arc@css said:
No, it's slower.

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arc@css · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:25

tellmewhy99 said:
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Sorry, I didn't '2' in your post. In that case two will definitely outperform one 580.

ALXAndy · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:26

tellmewhy99 said:
how about sli? will it less problem than crossfire?

OK look. Let me explain this briefly.

PC gamer = boil on the backside of the big picture. 10% of all video game sales, at best.

Multi GPU owner. 10% of all GPU owners.

Add the two together, you're going to end up a 5% (at best) minority.

Game companies don't cater to minorities. As much as minorities who throw away loads of money love to think, they don't give a crap about you.

Thus, video games are coded for the masses. First they are coded to work on consoles (as that's where the majority is) and then they are coded to work on a PC. However, they are coded to work on a normal PC that the majority of PC gamers own.

IE - two or maybe even four cores (if you're being spoiled !) on a CPU and one GPU. Because, multiple GPU owners (especially those who use three or four) are the minority.

Multiple GPUs will never become mainstream, so unless you really like faffing around then just go with the flow and get a single gpu, man.

kissenger · 5 Jan 2012 at 00:55

I've never owned multi-gpus but I was under the impression that in recent years SLI scaling has improved to close to 100%?

ALXAndy · 5 Jan 2012 at 01:09

kissenger said:
I've never owned multi-gpus but I was under the impression that in recent years SLI scaling has improved to close to 100%?

Scaling ? yeah man, better than ever.

That still doesn't detract from the issue, and the issue is software based as usual.

IE - your cards could scale 200%, but if the game doesn't support it or the drivers are not working as they should? it simply won't work.