Will IOS' simplisticity lead to it's doom?

Thirty years ago who would have believed that the Japanese would build a better motorbike than us Brits? We were complacent and didn't change with the times. Everyone believed that they built crap bikes and British was the best. It only took a few years for that to turn around and now look at our reputation.

Not changing with the times (especially where technology is concerned) can be fatal. Coolness and fashion changes quickly and most people yaern for something a bit different. The original iPhone is nearly five years old, yet the IOS is essentially the same. SIRI and the iCloud doesn't swing it for me. Other smartphones accessed the Cloud before Apple.

edit: Damn, I sound really anti Apple now, even though my household owns two Iphones, two iPod Touch's, an Ipad and a Macbook. I only own one Android but it has changed my opinion that everything Apple is best. In my opinion Apple now needs two IOS'. IOS for technophobes and to keep current users happy. IOS2 for people who value flexibility and customisation. Todays youth and 20-somethings are much more computer savvy. They will drive demand for smartphones.

edit2: Android is not necessarily more complicated than IOS. If you want to, you can simply fill your homescreens with square apps and make all of the taskbar icons do the same things as IOS. You don't even have to touch all of the extra features if you don't want to. Best of all, you can sync and update Android from any PC without additional software that is licensed to x number of computers, plus you can expand your devices capacity by 32GB for just £18.
 
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555BUK said:
Not changing with the times (especially where technology is concerned) can be fatal. Coolness and fashion changes quickly and most people yaern for something a bit different. The original iPhone is nearly five years old, yet the IOS is essentially the same. SIRI and the iCloud doesn't swing it for me. Other smartphones accessed the Cloud before Apple.
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Everyone said the same thing with the iPod. The iPod's interface evolved very slowly and competitors caught up. And then Apple released the iPod touch and it blew everything else out of the water.

Apple will change the iOS interface at some point but it's likely to be a big bang rather than a series of changes. As it stands, iOS suits the technology of today perfectly. When the next change leap in mobile tech comes along, Apple will most likely take advantage of it with a new interface.
 
Deku said:
I find it mildly amusing all these people complaining about the tight grip Apple has on the iPhone and the fenced in ecosystem.

Try Jailbreaking then come back to us.
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having only just Jailbreaked for the first time, what things would you recommend off cydia?
 
From having the iPhone 3G, 3GS, 4 and 4S I have just swapped to a Samsung Galaxy Note.

I am really loving the new flexibility the Note gives me with Android. I can connect to my work server via VPN and annotate documents with the pen. Great stuff.
 
An untethered jailbreak for 5.0.1 4S isn't available is it?

All this talk of customisation has got me thinking about doing it for the first time since my 3G.
 
So people like the simplicicity and reliability of IOS, yet also like to Jailbreak and modify it at the same time?
 
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Yup. I like the simplicity of iOS, but there are some jailbreak tweaks which make it even simpler to use, e.g. SBSettings.
 
I use android at the moment, and quite like it. I feel it is better than iOS for phones. However I'll probably upgrade from my HTC to an iPhone 4s/5 at the relevant point, because, frankly, I'm fed up with all the new Samsung and HTC phones being such stupid sizes....

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I'm running android custom rom, it's also rooted so I got rid of absolutely all bloatware, I can change directories and settings to my liking, basically, I can make the phone work how I want and even the software be built how I want.

I wouldn't call the SG2 inferior to the iphone4, however, I do love the build quality Apple has on they're products but I just don't want to be stuck with using inferior software packages such as iTunes. iTunes are the real media player of this decade, and that will be they're downfall.
 
Ah, iTunes is alright really - especially on Mac.

Apart from the impossibility of syncing an iPhone with multiple computers, it does what it's supposed to do well enough. It'll never be as customisable as something like Foobar, but those kind of users probably don't want an iPhone anyway.
 
iPhones are great. Itunes is a royal Pita. I sold my iphone 4 and got a gs2 so I didn't have to put up with the hell of transferring files or updating. Every windows user I know has suffered from itunes and their iphone screwing up royally one day and stalling at sync or backup etc.

windows drag and drop is superb, so is having flash on websites [the full BBC website is an incredible resource that I didn't want delivered through an app that was selective].

the simplicity of the iphone is a strength for some and a weakness for others. Itunes on the other hand is a bug ridden time sink.
 
ps- when the big ios overhaul comes who trusts an apple without Jobs ruthless appraisal technique.
 
With iOS 5, you can update an iPhone via wi-fi and sync/backup via wi-fi via iCloud. And any apps, music, etc., which you download automatically downloads to your iTunes. You only need to connect to iTunes to sync your own music from your computer...
 
I think a few big misconceptions need to be addressed:

Jail breaking your iPhone is not in any way comparable to rooting an Android device. You can not install a completely new OS (ROM) flavour based on customised coding. For example, people can do this with their Galaxy S2:

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You can not make a jail broken iPhone OS look like anything other than iOS. The coding just doesn't allow it. Third party installation and GSM unlock with limited theme configuration barely covers what's possible with an Android rooted device.


You do not need to tinker with your Android device if you never want to. The key thing is this: Choice. You can leave the Samsung Galaxy S2 as stock and it will be just fine. Whether or not you are 'satisfied' is up to you. But you can always change it. It's probably why people have been voting for the Galaxy S2 in the UK:Best Selling Phone At Christmas


The iPhones are amazing pieces of kit that can fit a lot of people and I thank Apple for making every phone manufacturer to kick into a higher gear. Apple users: Don't think that all Android devices are no where near as good them though. There's a ridiculous amount of choice and freedom with Android devices. Some might be god awful. Another holds the title of best smartphone of 2011.

And no, I don't own a Samsung. I have a Motorola Milestone because of the Slider QWERTY. Choice. Simple.
 
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What I find interesting about iOS jailbreak software is that a lot of it actually feels more like Android software than it does native iPhone stuff. By that I mean that it has a lot more respect for choice and customisability, but the UI design is absolutely atrocious. There is no consistency of UI; the animation is clunky and laggy; the use of fonts and spacing looks wrong; the icon design is amateurish; controls are in different places in different parts of the app; there is too much irrelevant information in the wrong places in the UI.

Those are many of the same UI flaws I notice with Android. They're probably excusable if you're a guy making jailbreak software in his bedroom for little or no return. They're less excusable if you're Google and you're writing an OS. The day I consider getting an Android phone is the day Android starts feeling like a product designed by designers rather than software engineers. Right now it feels like it's in perpetual beta.
 
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kylew said:
It makes me cringe how people are literally going "SD cards are crap, didn't want one anyway" as some sort of coping mechanism or learnt behaviour just because their beloved iPhones don't have them. For those saying they wouldn't trust their stuff on an SD card as well, what? So they're okay for digital SLRs and work fine, but aren't good enough for your music? *facepalm*.
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Just a quick FYI, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus doesn't have an SD card slot. (Yes, I know it's only 1 phone out of dozens of Android handsets, but it's now Google's official flagship model)
 
Mattus said:
Those are many of the same UI flaws I notice with Android. They're probably excusable if you're a guy making jailbreak software in his bedroom for little or no return. They're less excusable if you're Google and you're writing an OS. The day I consider getting an Android phone is the day Android starts feeling like a product designed by designers rather than software engineers. Right now it feels like it's in perpetual beta.
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Please list a few examples of this because I havent spotted them yet.
 
Skellig said:
I think a few big misconceptions need to be addressed:

You can not make a jail broken iPhone OS look like anything other than iOS. The coding just doesn't allow it. Third party installation and GSM unlock with limited theme configuration barely covers what's possible with an Android rooted device.
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What?

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