***Steam Reports 100% Sales Growth for 7th Consecutive Year***

Antar Bolaeisk said:
You are of course correct that people want to buy all their apps (eurgh, I feel dirty just for using that word) in one place but, right now, that one place for games is Steam. While Windows 8 may have something resembling the app repository seen on Linux I think it's too late to try and steal Steam's thunder. Even up to two years ago Windows could have overtaken them but instead time and time again they demonstrated their disdain for the PC gamer and now, with all the damage GFWL has done to their image, it'll take them a long time to regain any traction on the gaming side of things.

The other thing is that 40 million (or whatever it is now) users don't just disappear over night nor does annual growth of 100% just simply dry up (though of course growth like that is unsustainable and will eventually stop). Will there ever be something better than Steam, well you know what they say about the never word though I would imagine that after seven years people have made a large commitment to Steam and have built their gaming catalogue there which would make parting with Steam that much more unappealing.
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Its also all the services and features that's also important, that's why steam is so popular for gamers.
Windows 8 could have all the catalogue of steam and people who know of steam and its services will still buy from steam if the services are important to them.
Implementation is the key not the existence of.
 
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Worrying thing is that only 14.5m Steamworks enabled games were sold on PC in 2011. Assuming Portal2, Skyrim, MW3, Batman Arkham City accounted for most of those does not leave much else for other big budget PC games in 2011 as most had Steamworks so apart from BF3 & Crysis2 which did not support Steamworks does not give the impression that many more than 20m big budget PC games were sold in 2011 which considering the amount of PC gaming rigs in the world (well over 200m) is a pretty pathetic stat :eek:

Vast majority of Steam accounts will be for the sales I bet outside of that a lot of PC gamers pirate to hell & back then pick up the game cheaply in 6-9 months :rolleyes:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/01/06/steam-wants-you-to-look-at-its-muscles/#more-87842
 
AWPC said:
Worrying thing is that only 14.5m Steamworks enabled games were sold on PC in 2011. Assuming Portal2, Skyrim, MW3, Batman Arkham City accounted for most of those does not leave much else for other big budget PC games in 2011 as most had Steamworks so apart from BF3 & Crysis2 which did not support Steamworks does not give the impression that many more than 20m big budget PC games were sold in 2011 which considering the amount of PC gaming rigs in the world (well over 200m) is a pretty pathetic stat :eek:

Vast majority of Steam accounts will be for the sales I bet outside of that a lot of PC gamers pirate to hell & back then pick up the game cheaply in 6-9 months :rolleyes:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/01/06/steam-wants-you-to-look-at-its-muscles/#more-87842
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I think that means Steamworks games sold at retail and registered against an account. Since PC games at retail seem to be mostly the Sims and World of Warcraft expansions this probably isn't such a big deal.
 
The lack of PC games been sold in todays pathetic gaming stores forced me over to Steam. I was reluctant to use Steam for many years but last year I finally started using it and I'm glad I did.

The games can be over priced on Steam but then I tend to only buy games I like when I see them on a Steam sale.
 
Glaucus said:
See my first post, I'm not talking about an over night or even fast change. I doubt the full change will even be windows 8 and more like 9 if not 10.
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Thats a fairly long distance plan and I can't see MS doing things gradually. The only thing MS have going for them is that Windows is the most common OS and pretty much the standard. Plus your theory that there is going to be a single standard market place is completely contradicted by the current behaviour of publishers. Some of them are already trying desperately to avoid steam taking a cut for its service (cough, EA), what makes you think they would just roll over and allow MS to take a cut instead?

Can't see there being anything to worry about. MS screwed up time after time when it came to making GFWL even remotely attractive. Why would this attempt be anything other than a complete shamble?
 
So what other marketplace is going to be abilable for windows8 metro? None. That'swhere things are heading and up yes as I said this is the long term. I think it's very obviuse withered OS are heading and that's to more of a mobile OS but with the functionality of a full OS.

It's nothing like GFWL, desktops are dying albeit a very long way away. Then you are based around current Mobile OS those have hugely sucsufly app markets. It's the only choice and works well.

They won't roll over, market dictates and they'll change. What happened to publishers who resiststed first of all mp3s then drm free mp3s. Yep that's right they all gave up and released them.
 
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Antar Bolaeisk said:
I think that means Steamworks games sold at retail and registered against an account. Since PC games at retail seem to be mostly the Sims and World of Warcraft expansions this probably isn't such a big deal.
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That's even worse news then as UK only sold £700K of PC games @ retail last year according to a report I read online the other day :eek: it must be 14.5m total Steamworks titles sold which is quite low considering COD sold more units on 360 alone!!

Only £700K at retail is pretty low & likely to mean even less 2012 PC games @ retail than ever before.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-05-uk-boxed-video-game-market-fell-in-2011
 
£so your trying to say that only 700 grand of pc titles were sold in retail outlets.


i call shenanigans on that figure

bear in mind theres still many many supermarkets selling games plus a smattering of indys and your high st retailers game, pc world etc so say a minimum of a thousand stores your telling me your average store selling pc titles that equates to £700 a year on average per store or £15 of pc titles a week i somehow doubt that
 
lol eurogamer fail



ke for all boxed video games was £1.42 billion. The take for all console video games - excluding PC - was £1.35 billion.
That means boxed PC game sales accounted for just £700,000 of the UK total (GfK Chart-Track does not count digital sales). But that's not surprising, given the prevalence of Steam.
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proof that idiots shouldnt be allowed to write articles.
for anyone having a wee drink tonight, look at their maths, a billion is a thousand million 0.07 billion is £70 million a lot more than £700k

now if you consider that the pc gaming industry is raking in nearly 1.5 million a week in boxed retail sales alone and the poor availabilitiy of boxed retail pc games, i think its safe to say the industry is far from on its knees wheras the pc game review websites on the other hand.....
 
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steam is not going anywhere soon and if any windows version tries to force people to switch it will simply tank like vista did or even worse. people dictate where the PC OS market is going. We are not talking about teenage hipsters here that will buy anything apple shoves down their throat and using the app store on macs is the worst example when you consider the insignificant marketshare they are holding. Desktop pc users want choice and that will never ever change.
 
Just wait until Steam makes the native linux client, in fact you can use steam on linux now but performance may vary. If steam can make all the games run under linux for me it is bye bye Microsoft. But I can't see it, I use Arch Linux for everything I do on PC apart from gaming :(
 
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voorhees1979 said:
Just wait until Steam makes the native linux client, in fact you can use steam on linux now but performance may vary. If steam can make all the games run under linux for me it is bye bye Microsoft. But I can't see it, I use Arch Linux for everything I do on PC apart from gaming :(
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would be heaven :) i'd imagine a native linux version of a game would offer far better performance to a windows equivilant
 
NZXT30 said:
steam is not going anywhere soon and if any windows version tries to force people to switch it will simply tank like vista did or even worse. people dictate where the PC OS market is going. We are not talking about teenage hipsters here that will buy anything apple shoves down their throat and using the app store on macs is the worst example when you consider the insignificant marketshare they are holding. Desktop pc users want choice and that will never ever change.
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Exactly.

While most of us use windows, where we choose to buy apps and games for windows is down to us and not Microsoft, it does not matter that Microsoft may offer such a service built into windows 8, the hard core gamer will not buy stuff given a choice through windows 8 app store because the prices will rocket and people think steam can be expensive just take a look at GFWL marketplace for PC.

Microsoft will try to make people pay a yearly subscriptions again to play online if it got a majority foot hold in games service client.
 
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And what choice are you going to have in the future? That's the whole point, its very likely you wont without hacking. You are a minority. People forget that on this forum as its a computer forum.
Again it's clear to see where OS are heading and keep bringing up GFWL means nothing. It's something totally different.
 
Glaucus said:
So what other marketplace is going to be abilable for windows8 metro? None. That'swhere things are heading and up yes as I said this is the long term. I think it's very obviuse withered OS are heading and that's to more of a mobile OS but with the functionality of a full OS.

It's nothing like GFWL, desktops are dying albeit a very long way away. Then you are based around current Mobile OS those have hugely sucsufly app markets. It's the only choice and works well.

They won't roll over, market dictates and they'll change. What happened to publishers who resiststed first of all mp3s then drm free mp3s. Yep that's right they all gave up and released them.
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Completely different situations. It doesn't matter where the OS's think they are heading if they just ignore the strongest of what they're trying to leave behind. Mobile OS's are numerous and the 'app' services have only recently come in to play and it was simply what was there rising to the top. They weren't trying to displace anything in a position of strength like Steam and any attempt to do so would be seen for exactly what it is, Microsoft trying to create a monopoly. They certainly aren't going to include support for Mac or Linux and there are lots of people here who use those if the steam survey is anything to go by there is a decent portion of people using them so they wouldn't stand a chance at killing off the service.
 
Evilsod said:
Completely different situations. It doesn't matter where the OS's think they are heading if they just ignore the strongest of what they're trying to leave behind. Mobile OS's are numerous and the 'app' services have only recently come in to play and it was simply what was there rising to the top. They weren't trying to displace anything in a position of strength like Steam and any attempt to do so would be seen for exactly what it is, Microsoft trying to create a monopoly.
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And you know that will not be allowed to happen, Microsoft having a monopoly on games and software distributions.
 
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