The phones announced at CES 2012 thread

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xibinim said:
EDIT - I am a bit miffed with people saying 'not bothering as quad core will be out soon'. OK - quad core phones aren't far off but over the next year, how exactly is a quad core phone going to improve my experience?
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Smoother multitasking, better video playback on the players that are multicore, and potentially better battery life!

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Definately interested if it comes out here, decent specs (Galaxy S2 level) whilst sporting an actually decent battery? Yes please...unless somethings majorly off I can see it picking up some fans as battery life has been a major concern/criticism for many smartphone users :)

Kinda glad my contract doesnt expire til August, looks like there's going to be some nice phones coming out by then, QC/Bigger Batteries...I'll happily take either or both :D
 
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quad core has nothing to do with video playback - dual core/quad core, who really cares as long as its fast and has good battery life.
 
Better battery life - that's what they were saying for single core > dual core! Doesn't make that much difference when the battery has to power a 4.5" super AMOLED screen etc.
 
Alexrose1uk said:
Smoother multitasking, better video playback on the players that are multicore, and potentially better battery life!

@Razr Maxx
Definately interested if it comes out here, decent specs (Galaxy S2 level) whilst sporting an actually decent battery? Yes please...unless somethings majorly off I can see it picking up some fans as battery life has been a major concern/criticism for many smartphone users :)

Kinda glad my contract doesnt expire til August, looks like there's going to be some nice phones coming out by then, QC/Bigger Batteries...I'll happily take either or both :D
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Video play back I would say is more to do with software, almost ever phone has problems with it and only seems like samsung get it right. My SGS plays every file type Ive ever tried on the stock player apart from 1080p files, guessing this is sorted with dual cores but still almost ever other phone out there needs some fancy 3rd party player to play most vid types which I found just crazy on all these "media" phones.

On a side note im loving the Xperia S that phone has got it going on, was realling looking for a phone that isnt to big, galaxy nexus just scraps in at the maximum size I would consider for a phone.
 
The point is the more core phones will be more power efficient so when they're not doing anything tasking more cores will shut down saving even more power.

That's the whole point.
 
mrk said:
The point is the more core phones will be more power efficient so when they're not doing anything tasking more cores will shut down saving even more power.

That's the whole point.
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+1 But then phones seem to be using more and more battery life with bigger displays more pixels and so on so I guess its a little harder to see the impact they make on battery life.
 
Fallen god said:
Video play back I would say is more to do with software, almost ever phone has problems with it and only seems like samsung get it right. My SGS plays every file type Ive ever tried on the stock player apart from 1080p files, guessing this is sorted with dual cores but still almost ever other phone out there needs some fancy 3rd party player to play most vid types which I found just crazy on all these "media" phones.

On a side note im loving the Xperia S that phone has got it going on, was realling looking for a phone that isnt to big, galaxy nexus just scraps in at the maximum size I would consider for a phone.
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media playback relies on the soc's dedicated media processor - thats hardware acceleration. SGX540 and Exynos/Mail are good at this.

Cpu + gpu comes in for software decoding.

I believe 2 A15 cores + 2 lower power A7 cores is all we need in a phone.
 
That was my point, a good combo of CPU and GPU playback capabilities will offer you the best playback range. Providing clocks are comparable, if you load a video the GPU decoding can't handle, the quad core should do a better job with the multicore enabled video player apps in comparison to a dual core phone, as they tend to offer both software and hardware accelleration, to suit a wider range of file. Not every file is hardware acceleration compatible, even with something like an SGS2.

So yes, a quad core does have something to do with video playback, and could have benefits, especially if the relevant phones come with HDMI out :)

Can't dispute your second point though, higher speed, better battery life. Win-win!
 
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Even mkv contained h.264 1080p plays at native framerates over WIFI:

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Some. It doesn't play all of them, although I've no doubt it plays most absolutely fine. Like media streamer units there are files which can and do fall outside it's playback capabilities, which I've been a witness too.
 
It plays all common formats just fine, what video formats did you witness it not playing fine? We've already ruled out h264 which you insinuated would not play well!
 
kona786 said:
media playback relies on the soc's dedicated media processor - thats hardware acceleration. SGX540 and Exynos/Mail are good at this.
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My friend has Nexus and in the native player it wasnt doing to great with 720p mkv files which I thought was just crazy, it played them but you could tell it was slowing down here and there.

@Alexrose1uk Im not really saying quad-core wont help just trying to say that if a single core phone runs most things fine and a dual core phone runs almost everything (sgs and S2) then why dont most other phones offer the same level. The Transfomer prime from what I saw offered much better codec support and played most file times without a problem. It just most of this company claim they have multimedia phones and I find it kind of annoying that they offer such poor codec support.
 
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It plays all common formats just fine, what video formats did you witness it not playing fine? We've already ruled out h264 which you insinuated would not play well!
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It does not play all 1080p h264 mkv, I could give you at least 1 file name, however I am trying not to break forum rules. Like I said myself SOME files, I was not insinuating all h264 mkv, like with media streamers there are some files that will not play properly, likely dependent on a host of encode settings. I'm not sure why you find that so hard to believe since its reasonably well known that most hardware decoders are not 100% compatible with everything, and even the built in decoders on ATI and NVidia desktop cards to not work flawlessly with every file, such as level 5/5.1 encodes.
Unless I am wrong it will also not play any 10bit releases properly as I don't believe there is a hardware ASIC that supports this, although to be fair I am not sure the quad core would necessarily help here due to the increase in hardware requirements.
 
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