The phones announced at CES 2012 thread

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Alexrose1uk said:
It does not play all 1080p h264 mkv, I could give you at least 1 file name, however I am trying not to break forum rules. Like I said myself SOME files, I was not insinuating all h264 mkv, like with media streamers there are some files that will not play properly, likely dependent on a host of encode settings. I'm not sure why you find that so hard to believe since its reasonably well known that most hardware decoders are not 100% compatible with everything, and even the built in decoders on ATI and NVidia desktop cards to not work flawlessly with every file, such as level 5/5.1 encodes.
Unless I am wrong it will also not play any 10bit releases properly as I don't believe there is a hardware ASIC that supports this, although to be fair I am not sure the quad core would necessarily help here due to the increase in hardware requirements.
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To be clear, what phone are you on about here because you're not really clear in that area :/

If you're on about the SGS II then you're wrong, it DOES play 1080p (1920x1080) h.264 encoded files contained in mkv files and I provided proof in my video. That Frozen planet encode was ripped from the BluRay and I ripped it at 15Mbps video bitrate with AC3 audio.

The same goes for any other h.264 video, of which I have almost 2TB of. I've yet to find a h.264 encoded video that doesn't play normally on the S2 so please, do tell!

For the record you opened stating:

It does not play all 1080p h264 mkv
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Which is incorrect.
 
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mrk said:
To be clear, what phone are you on about here because you're not really clear in that area :/

For the record you opened stating:

Which is incorrect.
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I am indeed talking about the Sgs2, the file that wouldnt run hardware accelerated was a release of an ova from overseas called half-broken music box (in english). It was too slow in software to be watchable.

I don't doubt the vast majority of 1080p h264 play fine and as such you've not run into any issues, but as an obvious parallel, dedicated media streamers units designed for media (usually aimed at h264) do not play 100% of every file out there without issues using hardware and you are trying to deny that the sgs2 might have the same problem even though that is not its primary task.

I'm not sure if Robbo is talking about the sgs2 or not but note he ALSO mentions some 1080p files needing software decoding. Every SOC will have some limitations somewhere and there's usually a file somewhere that will break that, same as there are files which break DXVA or the BluRay standard compliancy.

Like I said, it will not play ALL h264 happily, and that was always the emphasis of my point. There's always room for better CPU to aid with decoding as a fallback for those files or even new formats which was my original point, in regards to quad CPUs.
 
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Ah so rare encodes that have different encode settings?

I've encountered some in the past that not even any of the media players on my PC would play without the odd skip/glitch or sync problem -Those too have been foreign sourced materials.

And that's on a 4.3GHz sandybridge and VLC/MPC-HC combination!

An obscure encode won't play on everything as expected, even computers, a standard compliant encode will have no problems though.
 
Lenovo K800 Intel Medfield with a 4.5-inch 720p screen, a 1.6GHz Intel Medfield processor, Android 2.3 and an 8 megapixel camera with a maximum sensitivity of ISO 3200:

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I can only imagine what the ISO3200 shot is going to look like on that sensor and it's not pretty.
 
kona786 said:
not a very good one - 'cos there will be a very small % of the market who knows what it actually means. Megapixels is the marketing king.
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Most of the public won't know what that game is about and the punters will buy anything if it's got big numbers attached to it.
 
They only announced the Wildfire S, Desire S, Incredible S and Flyer at MWC last year (and a gazillion dull 4G phones for the US) The Sensation/EVO 3D came later on in March/April.

By then the SGS2 (and to a lesser extent the Atrix/2X) had completely stolen the show, lets hope they get a great Krait/Tegra 3 flagship phone out asap.
 
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