How cheap would 8150 / 8120 have to be to be good value?

the_director · 12 Jan 2012 at 21:03

Question is in the title.

Seen the 8150 for £180 and the 8120 is on here for £30 less than the I5 2500k.

How cheap before they are worth considering?

FallshirmjAEger · 12 Jan 2012 at 21:08

Free???

Seriously, get the 2500K. For £30 extra it's a no brainer.

Reaper 392 · 12 Jan 2012 at 21:11

if your a gamer then they would have to be a lot cheaper than the i3 2100 to be a sensible solution.

if your doing something highly threaded then i would say a similar price to the i3 2120, because it performs quite a bit better in highly threaded stuff, but offers no upgrade path, whereas socket 1155 offers a mahoosive upgrade (i7 2600k)

source: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=289

Cooper · 12 Jan 2012 at 21:15

Well seeing as they are really only 4 core CPU's with a fancy interpretation of Intel's hyper threading, i wouldnt pay more than £100 for either of them.

Funny thing is, if AMD had been honest and marketed them as great value Quad cores, everyone would be impressed with them as such, and they wouldn't be getting such a hard time off people.

mmj_uk · 12 Jan 2012 at 21:33

Cooper said:
Funny thing is, if AMD had been honest and marketed them as great value Quad cores, everyone would be impressed with them as such, and they wouldn't be getting such a hard time off people.

Their individual core performance would still be poor, marketing can't change that.

As for the OP's question I wouldn't touch the 8120 unless it was a guaranteed clocker and I think £130 would be a reasonable price for 8150 considering their X6's were around that. 2500K is where it is at otherwise.

chaotic_uk · 12 Jan 2012 at 23:08

mmj_uk said:
Their individual core performance would still be poor, marketing can't change that.

As for the OP's question I wouldn't touch the 8120 unless it was a guaranteed clocker and I think £130 would be a reasonable price for 8150 considering their X6's were around that. 2500K is where it is at otherwise.

which x6's ?

Surveyor · 12 Jan 2012 at 23:35

chaotic_uk said:
which x6's ?

I assume he means the Phenom II X6.

chaotic_uk · 12 Jan 2012 at 23:46

if so i paid more than £130 for my 1100T , just after i paid £150 they went up to over £200

Soundood · 13 Jan 2012 at 14:53

i paid £150 from this very site for my 1100t, only back in march last year,

how much now? they were showing £220 before xmas, now they are gone

Cooper · 13 Jan 2012 at 15:18

soundood said:
how much now? they were showing £220 before xmas, now they are gone

No they weren't...last price for them was £130-140 before they went....or was that the 1090?...pfft, same difference..

Hagar · 13 Jan 2012 at 15:18

If I needed a processor now, which I do not, I would be very tempted by an 8120 at £125. I do not game. Just VS and VM's and general stuff.

chaotic_uk · 13 Jan 2012 at 15:48

Cooper said:
No they weren't...last price for them was £130-140 before they went....or was that the 1090?...pfft, same difference..

the 1100T hit £219.99 before they all went

opethdisciple · 13 Jan 2012 at 16:12

I reckon the 8150 should be priced around 2500k levels.

Its basically a 4 core cpu with some 'new' kind of hyperthreading.

jennidc · 13 Jan 2012 at 18:26

8120

If the 8120 got down to around £100-120 then I might be tempted to sell my 1055T and swap it for an 8120.

Alkalinepro5 · 13 Jan 2012 at 19:32

chaotic_uk said:
if so i paid more than £130 for my 1100T , just after i paid £150 they went up to over £200

Thing is though X6's rack up heat like a bitch....

And you have to have a beefy ass cooler to compensate that ********, because Phenom II's can't operate over 60-65+ without failing in the long run...

TBH just go intel... As a company they actually invest in R&D and don't cheap out like n00b ass AMD.

jennidc · 13 Jan 2012 at 20:31

AP I'm not a fan boy as I have owned Intel and AMD based PC's. My 1055T will happily handle 1.5v and stay cool with a £25 cooler - and Intel SB chips will not even go to 1.38v without risk of damage see this thread from Intel and OC http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18227651

Yes we all know that the 2500k is a fantastic chip and if money was no issue I would have one myself. But the x6 Thurbans are fantastic value for money if you can pick one up 2nd hand and they overclock brilliantly - I vary mine between 3.6 and 4ghz depending on what I am doing at 4ghz that is an OC of 1.2ghz from stock on all 6 cores. I picked up my CPU and my Sabretooth Asus board 990fx for £175 - the cost of a SB 25k on its own!!!

kitch9 · 14 Jan 2012 at 13:19

Alkalinepro5 said:
Thing is though X6's rack up heat like a bitch....

And you have to have a beefy ass cooler to compensate that ********, because Phenom II's can't operate over 60-65+ without failing in the long run...

TBH just go intel... As a company they actually invest in R&D and don't cheap out like n00b ass AMD.

Your posts make my brain hurt. :rolleyes:

Speed · 14 Jan 2012 at 14:15

jennidc said:
AP I'm not a fan boy as I have owned Intel and AMD based PC's. My 1055T will happily handle 1.5v and stay cool with a £25 cooler - and Intel SB chips will not even go to 1.38v without risk of damage see this thread from Intel and OC http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18227651

Yes we all know that the 2500k is a fantastic chip and if money was no issue I would have one myself. But the x6 Thurbans are fantastic value for money if you can pick one up 2nd hand and they overclock brilliantly - I vary mine between 3.6 and 4ghz depending on what I am doing at 4ghz that is an OC of 1.2ghz from stock on all 6 cores. I picked up my CPU and my Sabretooth Asus board 990fx for £175 - the cost of a SB 25k on its own!!!

Higher voltage isn't a good thing, you know that right? You are also compairing an older architecture CPU based around the 45nm manufacturing process to a 32nm more modern architecture chip, of course the latter is going to handle less voltage. It is also going to be faster clock for clock, use less power and many other things you failed to mention.

Yes the 2500K is more expensive, but I'd rather invest in a platform that is faster, has more future upgrading options and is more efficient. It may cost slightly more to start with, but it will last longer and therefore prove to be better value in the long run.

Gashman · 14 Jan 2012 at 19:21

I wouldn't bet on Intel not changing their socket type in the coming future, they are notorious for it! sure LGA1155 will support Ivy Bridge, but AM3+ supports Piledriver as well, so there isn't any comparison that respect, both mentioned are simply updates of the architectures in question, except we 'know' how well Ivy is going to perform, where as Piledriver could end up as expect or a huge surprise, we just don't know!

Speed · 14 Jan 2012 at 19:39

Gashman said:
I wouldn't bet on Intel not changing their socket type in the coming future, they are notorious for it! sure LGA1155 will support Ivy Bridge, but AM3+ supports Piledriver as well, so there isn't any comparison that respect, both mentioned are simply updates of the architectures in question, except we 'know' how well Ivy is going to perform, where as Piledriver could end up as expect or a huge surprise, we just don't know!

Of course they will change it, but Z68 and P67 both have known 22nm CPU support. Like you say we don't know what Piledriver will offer, although going on recent trends it doesn't exactly look good. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes.