I had my business name removed, understood it, but not much i could do about it! i want people to see my work, maybe be inspred from it. I cant see why show casing your work with a watermark is so wrong. Its the photographers property he wants to share but not for it to be ripped of. Who is gonig to save multiple edits of the same image, upload them multiple times At the end of the day this section is going to be filled with spec me a camera threads and thats about it. Im on other forums, images and signatures are allowed but no direct marketing. I.e. if someone post if there is a good photographer you cant say yourself. It works there and everyone gets on with it!
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The watermark gives the security needed when showcasing such pictures on a website. Without the water mark you are opening up your work for other people to just take and use as their own.
Watermarks which have a direct link to a website I think could be seen as pushing it, but XZY Photography? Nahhh!
People like showcasing their work and I like to look at such showcased work. As I have said before, Raymonds wedding thread was full of wonderful pictures however I never once thought he was self promoting. I think most people in this sub-forum will agree that they have never once felt threads were intentionally self promoting. Never even crosses my mind.
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Watermark the straight over the center of the image.
A watermark in the bottom of the picture isn't going to do anything.
I would never watermark an image at the bottom.. it can be cropped out.
A watermark in the bottom of the picture isn't going to do anything.
I would never watermark an image at the bottom.. it can be cropped out.
The problem is a cracking pic with your business watermark on it is the best direct marketing there is. I can see why OcUk would perhaps have issues with this and the no business interests rule. However I don't believe Raymonds thread was made with this intent, he was just sharing his work and how he is progressing. it's a great read. He has been a member of this subforum during all this period it is interesting stuff for others to read, purely in the interest of photography.
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Have you ever seen The Thomas Crown Affair?
Just out of curiosity why has this come to light now?
As far as I can tell, many of the professional photographers have been posting their images here for a good few years or so with little/no problem at all.
Also the other problem this creates is uploading various copies of a single photo to a photo sharing website. All other forums accept the use of "properly" watermarked images (much like this used to) and now OCUK requires a new watermark meaning an extra set of images need to be uploaded.
Batch producing images with watermarks takes a few seconds but uploading the multiple types of watermarked images will take a lot longer.
As far as I can tell, many of the professional photographers have been posting their images here for a good few years or so with little/no problem at all.
Also the other problem this creates is uploading various copies of a single photo to a photo sharing website. All other forums accept the use of "properly" watermarked images (much like this used to) and now OCUK requires a new watermark meaning an extra set of images need to be uploaded.
Batch producing images with watermarks takes a few seconds but uploading the multiple types of watermarked images will take a lot longer.
What's the difference between images and this thread which is clearly promoting business?
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18363924
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18363924
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The goal posts seemed to have been moved when I got suspended. Suspended for the wedding photos 2011 thread. A thread that was started in 2011...I also started one for 2010 too and posted in that for a year.
24 months with no problems.
Then without warning I got suspended, thread deleted. Rather than making a notice to tell us it is not allowed anymore, I get a suspension for something that has been fine for 2 years.
I can follow the rules, but I cannot tell the future.
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...but that isn't what has happened with RL. He had his company name on there, not his own name.
He just happens to have named his company name after himself
What would you like us to do about that? That's not a problem of our making. The self-promotion rules have been there longer than Raymond has been taking photos!Batch producing images with watermarks takes a few seconds but uploading the multiple types of watermarked images will take a lot longer.
Oh dear
Then why has it taken 24+ months for this to come to light?
Oh dear
Oh dear indeed... Its not just the extra time... Its the extra space and bandwidth on such sites some of which people might be paying for. Just seems like a lot of faff for something which has been okay up to now.
Because, as pointed out, this forum isn't heavily modded.
We can change that, if need be
There are free hosting sites available
Yes it did (does, actually, I'm looking at the images)
This may seem like I am being of an **** but (and please don't ban me
) under the new rules;"Photographer: Raymond Lin" would be okay BUT "Raymond Lin Photography" would not be okay?
Seems a bit strange don't you think?
Because, as pointed out, this forum isn't heavily modded.
We can change that, if need be
We could have gotten away with loads then if mods only come her bi-annually
*post meant as a light hearted joke*
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None, which is why this needs to be clarified.
Do I need to blur out our name from the award and remove the showreel (which a member asked me to post)? Or are we simply not allowed to post success stories/publishings etc?
If you name your company after yourself and emblazon images with your name then yes, that's a problem.
It's not our problem though, it is yours as it contravenes the rules.
This may seem like I am being of an **** but (and please don't ban me
"Photographer: Raymond Lin" would be okay BUT "Raymond Lin Photography" would not be okay?
Seems a bit strange don't you think?
Isn't that taking the company name and just swapping the words around? How is that an improvement?
...and therefore you have a catch22 situation. Now I have never taken RL photos as self-promotion, same for nearly everyone here - it is a showcase for critique.
Setting this thread aside, most of the 'togs in here are reasonable and trying to enjoy what they do, 'spread the love' a bit. Don't you think this is all a bit harsh; I (and probably everyone else here) fully understands the need to stop self-promotion but surely there's a fine balance somewhere but it seems to have tipped one-way all of a sudden.
edit: before all this kicked off, didn't we amble along on a nice middle ground where everyone was happy (apart from the occassional prod that was the sig thing)
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