Wiki blackout.
- Thread starter King Damager
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Gah this is so annoying. I fully understand wiki doing this however whenever i do not understand something i wiki it and this is normally on a daily basis. Didn't recognise how much i depended on its service!
I'm not trolling.
I agree it raises awareness but don't most people know about it anyway by now?
I'm merely pointing out that the website giants don't have the bottle to actually take their sites down properly in support of this, which is a bit sad.
Immense pressure from the rest of the world should help at least.
Does your mum/dad/sister know about it. Only heavy internet users know about it...
I haven't asked them, but I imagine they do as it's on the main news isn't it?
I know right? I use it on a daily basis when I'm at work. I love being able to look up all kinds of random stuff.
Still... it is helps scupper SOPA, then rock on Wikipedia! Rock on!
Would it be on the main news without the blackouts? Nope. This was definitely needed. Not everyone who reads wiki watches the news as well.
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If they didn't. They do now.
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Well this thread's got very depressing. "Oh, it's a bit of a cop out 'blackout'"... "Lol, guys, you can still use it if you..."... "This isn't going to do anything you know."...
It's amazing that so many of the largest sites have got involved, it's unprecedented. It will raise awareness.
It's amazing that so many of the largest sites have got involved, it's unprecedented. It will raise awareness.
Will people being aware of it be able to stop it though, that is the question.
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You question why Google haven't done more, and now you're saying that if they did more, making more people aware, it's probably pointless because those people won't do anything anyway?
You must be playing devils advocate here, and doing a poor job of it.
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Indeed.
If it gets to a critical mass then yes. This may need to law to pass to achieve but with regards to a free and open Internet I am afraid the genie is out of the bottle. Even places like China are struggling to keep its citizens in the dark.
Whilst Governments say they support citizen power via the Internet (like the Arab Spring for example) I suspect that they secretly fear it.
I'm not trying to do that. Making more people aware is good, but people being simply aware of something doesn't mean it will magically stop it from happening.
What are those people who are now aware of this expected to do? Especially if they are outside of the US? Genuine question.
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Just add ?banner=none to the end of a wiki URL and it loads it properly, none of this faffing with a stop button!
If you follow the link on the wikipedia blackout page it tells you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more
Under "I don't live in the United States. How can I help?"
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Knowledge is power. Spreading the word, even outside of the US, may make our paymasters think twice. They need to be reminded that, we the people, are in charge not the lobbyists and the cartels.
Then why did you ask why Google weren't doing their blackout doogle to the rest of the World?
As I said, we, outside of the US can do very little except tell US people so they can act, of which Google is doing to it's US users, at least if they use the front page.
'...Then they came for me —
and there was no one left to speak out for me.'
springs to mind for me, its not that far fetched that SOPA/PIPA could have a direct consequence on UK digital legislation in the future - I think its quite pertinant we are pro-active about this...
Seems to be an a few e-petitions on the Gov website - this one has the most signatures (1000+) but not entirely sure its suits my thoughts on the matter:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/26143
ps3ud0
and there was no one left to speak out for me.'
springs to mind for me, its not that far fetched that SOPA/PIPA could have a direct consequence on UK digital legislation in the future - I think its quite pertinant we are pro-active about this...
Seems to be an a few e-petitions on the Gov website - this one has the most signatures (1000+) but not entirely sure its suits my thoughts on the matter:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/26143
ps3ud0
Urm Digital Economy Act 2010 and Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 are already in force here, its a bit late to be pro-active. It was only 6 months ago BT were ordered to block access to Newzbin because the MPA didnt like the site, and only a month ago the MPA had Sky block it