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Nvidia keplar wins hands down.

Davefran said:
July 2010 GTX 480 prices :eek:
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Yep, bought my POV 480 in April 2010 for around £450. I'm not sure what the issue is though? I've had nearly two years of pretty much maximum detail, hassle free gaming.

If you're into gaming and you want to play games at a far higher resolution and considerably better IQ/LOD than the consoles then it's a price worth paying imo.

You've only got to look at the release day prices of consoles (eg. PS3 £425) to realise that high end graphics cards aint really that bad value for money, especially when you consider their capabilities.
 
Davefran said:
July 2010 GTX 480 prices :eek:

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Prices seem pretty good compared to the 7970. Cheapest in-stock GTX480 was £390 vs £460 for the cheapest 7970. Also, the GTX480 was by far the fastest card of it's generation, being 60-80% faster than previous generation cards. At the moment the 7970 is only the first card of it's generation, and has just ~20% over the previous gen GTX580. In performance terms (if not in power efficiency), the GTX480 was a much superior card for it's time.
 
555BUK said:
Prices seem pretty good compared to the 7970. Cheapest in-stock GTX480 was £390 vs £460 for the cheapest 7970. Also, the GTX480 was by far the fastest card of it's generation, being 60-80% faster than previous generation cards. At the moment the 7970 is only the first card of it's generation, and has just ~20% over the previous gen GTX580. In performance terms (if not in power efficiency), the GTX480 was a much superior card for it's time.
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But noisy, hot, power hungry and like 6 months late?

Edit - and not that much faster than a cheaper 5870 without those inconviences. While the 7970 beats everything else in every way.
 
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555BUK said:
Prices seem pretty good compared to the 7970. Cheapest in-stock GTX480 was £390 vs £460 for the cheapest 7970. Also, the GTX480 was by far the fastest card of it's generation, being 60-80% faster than previous generation cards. At the moment the 7970 is only the first card of it's generation, and has just ~20% over the previous gen GTX580. In performance terms (if not in power efficiency), the GTX480 was a much superior card for it's time.
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lol, max overclock 480gtx vs max overclock 5870, still only 10-15% ahead, max overclock 580gtx vs max overclock 7970...... 50%+ ahead, NOT 20%.

It's funny, if Nvidia release a TDP limited underclocked Kepler, you would never in a million years find me pretending the ultimate speed of the card was less than it really was. For all the people that like to call me biased I frequently recommend nvidia cards when they provide as good value for money, 470/570gtx at their best pricing were better buys than the 5850/6950, but those two cards didn't stay around the £215-225 mark for long. 560ti 1gb is fine, 560ti 2gb was a joke, etc, etc.

The card is underclocked, this couldn't be more completely blindingly obvious.

You will, FOR CERTAIN get either an underclocked big Kepler that overclocks as well as a 7970, or you will get a big kepler that has a tdp rating over 300W AND uses a decent amount more than that. If its got X clocks and 350-400W real power usage or if its 250-300W and underclocked, the card is simply as fast as the card really is either way.

Go download and stick a bios with 600Mhz clocks on a 580gtx..... does that change the fact that it can run the same overclock no matter the stock speed..... no.

The 7970 isn't 20% faster than a 580gtx, by any stretch of the truth.
 
Hard to see this happening! Will definitely go with a pair of 7970.

Don't get me wrong I love competition! Go Nvidia! .. and when kepler is out I will change my tune to go AMD!

I really hope Kepler woops 7970's, prices fall, I can afford to put a third 7970 in my new build!

While fanboys can continue to caress their beloved cards :D
 
555BUK said:
Also, the GTX480 was by far the fastest card of it's generation, being 60-80% faster than previous generation cards. At the moment the 7970 is only the first card of it's generation, and has just ~20% over the previous gen GTX580. In performance terms (if not in power efficiency), the GTX480 was a much superior card for it's time.
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Erm no. The GTX 480 was 10% faster than 5870 at launch. After being 6 months later it was barely faster than the competition, far too hot and noisy. In what realm of fantasy is this a 'much superior card' lol
 
555BUK said:
Prices seem pretty good compared to the 7970. Cheapest in-stock GTX480 was £390 vs £460 for the cheapest 7970. Also, the GTX480 was by far the fastest card of it's generation, being 60-80% faster than previous generation cards. At the moment the 7970 is only the first card of it's generation, and has just ~20% over the previous gen GTX580. In performance terms (if not in power efficiency), the GTX480 was a much superior card for it's time.
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Yeah the GTX480 was a beast in every way imaginable but you have to compare it against what was available at the time and it's nearest competitor was the HD5870 and it was about the amount faster over HD5870 as the HD7970 is over a GTX580.

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Of course that's not a fair comparison since were talking a 28nm vs a 40nm card but you get the idea.

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Side note I've just looked at the data again and a the HD5970 is actually pulling fewer watts then a GTX480!
 
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Cyber-Mav said:
true, more like 15% and going by star trek online, it take a bigger hit in dx11, where gtx 580 increases speed in dx11.
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Also hardOCP said that Star Trek Online has horrible performance in DX11 for 6xxx and 7xxx cards. Nope runs great for me and faster than DX9.

7950's in Crossfire
DX9 at 1920 x 1200, 8x AA, 16xAF and all the stuff on highest = 90fps
DX11 same settings 129fps

6990 is 120fps with the same settings.
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http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost.php?p=1336814614&postcount=32
 
Freddie1980 said:
Yeah the GTX480 was a beast in every way imaginable but you have to compare it against what was available at the time and it's nearest competitor was the HD5870 and it was about the amount faster over HD5870 as the HD7970 is over a GTX580.


Of course that's not a fair comparison since were talking a 28nm vs a 40nm card but you get the idea.

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Side note I've just looked at the data again and a the HD5970 is actually pulling fewer watts then a GTX480!
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It's THAN, Freddie, the word you're looking for is THAN.
 
Freddie1980 said:
Yeah the GTX480 was a beast in every way imaginable but you have to compare it against what was available at the time and it's nearest competitor was the HD5870 and it was about the amount faster over HD5870 as the HD7970 is over a GTX580.

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Of course that's not a fair comparison since were talking a 28nm vs a 40nm card but you get the idea.

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Side note I've just looked at the data again and a the HD5970 is actually pulling fewer watts then a GTX480!
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But they were the same generation, not a new generation.
A few months apart, not over a year apart.
 
old gamer said:
Looking at the 2006 price of a 8800gtx for £470 my 7970 for £480 does not seem to bad
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The 8800 GTX was priced at $600, the 7970 is priced at $550.

The difference is G80 offered over twice the performance that the previous generation did, ultimately destroying every Crossfire or SLI configuration out there.
 
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