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Nvidia say they're underwhelmed by 7970

Arrogant as ever.

Oh and 2gb vram? tight gits.

These cards are supposed to be able to run three monitors.

Still, as the saying goes... Treat em mean keep em keen.
 
would hardly say its amazing now would they.

News is better than no news, regardless of the truth. Although if Nvidia would make foolish statements like that and be totally wrong, would in turn make them look like childish idiots. The new card will be faster, but by how much?.

Do you think it will be a jump over the 7970 like the 7970 is over the GTX 580?. That would seem plausible for Nvidia to feel confident but wouldn't be the leap we're all hoping for. I can't see it being double the GTX 580 in power, no way.
 
id love to know why amd are always behind nvidia

:confused:

AMD first to 40nm.
AMD first to DX11.
AMD first to 28nm.
AMD first to DX11.1.
AMD first to PCI-E 3.0 (Ironically).
AMD's dual GPU cards generally 1 up Nvidia's flagship single, with which Nvidia barely reply, we've had the GTX295, and the GTX590 (Arguably slower than the 6990)
AMD's 7970 is the single fastest GPU on the planet.

You make zilch sense.
 
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Arrogant as ever.

Oh and 2gb vram? tight gits.

These cards are supposed to be able to run three monitors.

Still, as the saying goes... Treat em mean keep em keen.

Not really. That GK-104 is only the 560's replacement.

i would therefore imagine the 580gtx's replacement to have more v-ram.

It would be brilliant, mainly price wise, if Nvidia's 560 replacement actually beat the 7970.

Here's hoping.
 
It would be brilliant, mainly price wise, if Nvidia's 560 replacement actually beat the 7970.

Yeah, obviously doubt it, but that'd indeed more than justify the OP. Hell, that might even surpass 9700Pro/8800GTX level of awesomeness... oh how I wish! :D



...But, back to reality, I'll just expect a decent to good step-up, for the 580 replacement that is.
 
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According to the rumours the GK104/660(or 760) will equal the 7970. If that's true then what they said makes sense.
 
I really can't understand people that buy the "new", "top of the range" graphics cards. By the time any games come out that push them even close to their limits they've been replaced by the "new", "top of the range" cards?
In my (less money than sense) opinion it makes more sense to stay one step behind the leading edge graphics cards.
 
:confused:

AMD first to 40nm.
AMD first to DX11.
AMD first to 28nm.
AMD first to DX11.1.
AMD first to PCI-E 3.0 (Ironically).
AMD's dual GPU cards generally 1 up Nvidia's flagship single, with which Nvidia barely reply, we've had the GTX295, and the GTX590 (Arguably slower than the 6990)
AMD's 7970 is the single fastest GPU on the planet.

You make zilch sense.

He means the actual speed of the GPU's, not tickbox features.

Apart from the 9700 Pro era they've almost always been a step behind. The 7970 is only fastest because it's been released ahead of its competition rather than on merit.

Like you say the dual GPU Crossfire cards is where AMD tend to enjoy most success, although in fairness that is usually down to NVidia releasing hobbled SLI cards.
 
He means the actual speed of the GPU's, not tickbox features.

I should have put it like this, thank you :p

But yes nvidia are always better for speed and features like physx and cuda, might not make a HUGE difference but in some games like just cause 2 it makes a massive difference to the visual quality of the game.
 
I really can't understand people that buy the "new", "top of the range" graphics cards. By the time any games come out that push them even close to their limits they've been replaced by the "new", "top of the range" cards?
In my (less money than sense) opinion it makes more sense to stay one step behind the leading edge graphics cards.

That's how I roll, well almost. I stick two "seasons" behind on the GPU market:

Right now I have quadfire 5970's under water. Once the 7k series equivalent is released and all the rich kids (comparatively speaking) grab the 7990's (or w/e it will be) I'll be scooping up the 6990's on here (or w/e :D).

That's pretty much how I've always done things and it works brilliantly. Right now, these 5970's max out Skyrim, BF3, Stalker (etc) at 2560*1440 (Dell 27") with relative ease. Within two years though, these cards will start to dwindle at this resolution, but by 2013 I should be rocking 6990's under water.
 
For the "AMD behind Nvidia" stuff, that's just how big competitors work. One of them has to show their cards first, then the other gets a chance to make something better.

At the end of the day though, by the time Nvidia gets to releasing their cards, AMD cards have already made huge sales and have started to drop in price significantly.

Word has it though that AMD are dropping out of the GPU sector, or so a little bird once told me......:D
 
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