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Do you think we'll see a third player enter the high end gpu market any time soon?

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obviously we have the big two amd/ati but i miss the choice of yesteryears manufacturers, I know most of the companies have went under or been bought over by one of the above but theres still some companies out there playing with their own thing, ie via and matrox (mainly multi head end stuff and embedded chips)
After Intel waxing lyrical about larrabee then shelving it I honestly wonder whether anyone will come play again in the discrete gpu market?

I'd love to see someone come out of leftfield with new and exciting ideas and technology and give us a bit more choice. although i think its safe to say you could change nvidia to intel and gpu to cpu and move this to another subsection on exactly the same premise
 
Some of the Larrabee tech is still around - it sort of morphed into the "Knights Ferry/Corner" MIC chip with about 50 x x86 cores on a chip for parallel computing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_MIC

Ironically its the british firms leading the pack - ARM are doing graphics now too and its looking good - but for the ARM type hardware - e.g. smartphones and tablets - but its a start.

And the UK firm PowerVR are still around on the - iphone/ipad.

Intel are the only likely candidate - but you can never discount some upstart appearing and coming from nowhere - after all that is what nVidia were 10 years or so ago or apple vs nokia in mobile phones - though a GPU is a lot harder to do than a phone.
 
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What will happen in the coming future is more power and efficiency from the on board an integrated chip solutions . Soon hopefully if its not already happening is the onboard studf will be 'fast enough' and 'good enoigh'. For 1080p gaming. In the way that for the last few years cpus for the most part have been fast enough
 
I didn't know anyone else made graphics cards, I thought companies like MSi just put their name and a few more stickers on ATi/AMD's graphics cards
 
Would be nice to have some more competition in the market, especially given that ATI and nvidia don't seem to be competing as fiercely as they used to, not sure why.

Nvidia seem fairly happy to concede the entry level and mid-range to ATI, as long as they can dominate the high/super-high end. Seems bizarre, cos I'd have thought all the money was in the mid-range market, but there it is. Nobody would bother with an nvidia card at the moment until you get up to the 560ti, and then only because it's a bit cheaper than the 6950.

Maybe a third player is the only answer; resurrect 3dfx I say!
 
DJ Baz said:
Would be nice to have some more competition in the market, especially given that ATI and nvidia don't seem to be competing as fiercely as they used to, not sure why.

Nvidia seem fairly happy to concede the entry level and mid-range to ATI, as long as they can dominate the high/super-high end. Seems bizarre, cos I'd have thought all the money was in the mid-range market, but there it is. Nobody would bother with an nvidia card at the moment until you get up to the 560ti, and then only because it's a bit cheaper than the 6950.

Maybe a third player is the only answer; resurrect 3dfx I say!
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not likely nvidia bought over what left of 3dfx :( theres still companies out there playing in the field, and i guess all it would take if for one of these to come up with a breakthrough not too likely but i'd imagine it could happen. or as said if intel want to come out and play, they have the resources the smarts and the funding that if they wanted they could make a push
 
MDPlatts said:
And the UK firm PowerVR are still around on the - iphone/ipad.
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Of course! I remember PowerVR were the main competitors to 3dfx (it was a two horse race even back then!).

Didn't Quake II have 3 rendering options: 3dfx, PowerVR and OpenGL (for everything else)?

Left-field suggestion: what about Sony? Could they build a card based on a Cell processor?
 
Imagination Technologies might expand, but the mobile industry seems to be their target market for now (phones/PSP).
 
I would love to see another manufacturer shake up the place. But worse is the CPU market. AMD aren't really a player in the high performance parts any more, and Window's adherence to x86 means Intel effectively controls the market. Maybe with the move to ARM, more manufacturers will be able to get in on the game.
 
I think that technically Intel are the largest supplier of gfx chips in the PC market, they are just all integrated. Intel could at any time enter the discreet gfx market whenever they wanted and would probably have a mid/high end part to market after just a few years. Not sure why they haven't done this of yet. Parallel computing is now becoming very big, they would certainly have the entire Apple market, probably most of the prefabbed system market, possibly some of the console market, Really not sure why they haven't as yet.
 
It'd be nice if PowerVR came back into the fold but I suppose it's difficult for a new kid on the block to gain any foothold.
 
PowerVR already have a foothold in x86- the new Intel Atom for phones and tablets is using a PowerVR graphics design. They used to make standalone cards, and they could conceivably make a comeback. The real question is whether they think there's any profit in the high end discrete graphics market- they're already making a buttload by putting graphics in almost every smartphone and tablet out there (not to mention the PS Vita).
 
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