Draining dilemma

Harpss1ngh · 29 Jan 2012 at 20:54

Ok cool thanks

bigjimmyauk · 29 Jan 2012 at 21:01

Just to chime in i love those koolance rad holders

i'm almost border line getting one to hold my 480 rad on the back and mout a 360 rad inside the case to save me A, buying a dremel B, messing up my case

Mayhems · 29 Jan 2012 at 21:03

BTW they are called 3 way ball value. RRP is normally £3.50 (plastic) up to £10.00 metal.

You will need to hunt around to find the prices i've said.

bigjimmyauk · 29 Jan 2012 at 21:52

i imagine a 3way ball valve would stop sediment build up?

Would have to go like this wouldn't it due to the nature of the valve not allowing throughput

Mayhems · 29 Jan 2012 at 22:07

@bigjimmyauk your doing it wrong, dont complicate things.

The ball valve seals off the drain port when not in use there for no build up lol

Danm54 · 29 Jan 2012 at 22:15

Go to the kitchen and get a clean bowl, big enough to hold a litre or so of water but will still fit under your rad, place under the rad and undo the comp fitting.
Allow water to drain into the bowl and blow the rest out by blowing into the tube you've just disconnected. Funnel it back into the coolant bottle and reuse.

Surely not that difficult to figure out :confused:

bigjimmyauk · 29 Jan 2012 at 22:26

Ignore me tired

Harpss1ngh · 29 Jan 2012 at 23:36

mlwood37 said:
can i ask why are you removing liquid if you just going to refill it again with the same liquid. If it working there is old adage that comes into play "If it works leave it alone". If its because you getting high temps its because of the way the rad is placed.

I noticed while scrolling through the thread you edited your post after I had replied to it.

My temps are fine and what I expect them to be. As I mentioned before the only reason I need to drain my loop is because I'm adding a GPU Water Block as I'm upgrading my graphics card and it makes sense to add GPU cooling to the loop rather than just my CPU to cut down the noise further.

If I didn't have to then I wouldn't bother. If there's a better way to do this then feel free to let me know...

mlwood37 said:
All so that must be a bugger to bleed because the way you rad and bay res is. I would move the bay res to the top of the system. Turn the rad the other way around so the barbs are at the top (air will come out better). How ever if the rad has a Bleed screw in the upper side the way it is now it will be 100% easier to bleed.

I had no problem at all with bleeding or any air bubbles or air locks or anything at all. I left it running and about an hour after I first added coolant to my loop it was fine. My first and only time watercooling and it went smooth as butter.

If I turn my rad the other way then I'm just going to end up with long tubes going to the bottom of my case as you can see from the pics the holes for the tubes are positioned near the bottom, the way I've done it is easier for me and hasn't caused any issues. I am aware that newer cases have the holes at the top but I haven't felt it necessary to start cutting up my case. There is no bleed screw on the rad either.

If I can manage to move my bay res/pump then I'll move it to the top of the case.

mlwood37 said:
Another way is to get a hole saw at 120mm , mask and drill 3 x 120mm holes in the roof and mount it in the roof ... or simple made 4 brackets bolt the rad to the roof laying it flat and have the pipes facing backwards so they go though the back or drill 2 holes though the case so they go through the case.

sorry im a modder at hart and get used to shredding cases to making things work better and look better..

I don't want to cut up my case nor feel the need to. If I felt the need to do this then I would have just got a bigger case like a 900D, but I'm happy with my current case and my Rad mounted externally the way it is.

Also that pic is a bit old as I mentioned and it looks much cleaner now as I have lowered the rad to the same height of the case and it's lit up with uv lights making the mahems premixed green uv coolant in the tubes glow as well as a couple led case fans.

Bubo · 30 Jan 2012 at 09:46

If I were you I'd still siphon as much as I could out of the res before you start thinking about where you need to be cutting tubes. You will have much more control over making sure you don't lose any coolant. At least you would minimse your losses if you do find you lose control once you cut a tube/remove a fitting. And as I mention it should be possible to get nearly all the fluid out through the res by siphoning, you should only need to tilt the case forwards so the coolant runs into the res as you siphon out.

Harpss1ngh · 30 Jan 2012 at 10:04

Bubo said:
If I were you I'd still siphon as much as I could out of the res before you start thinking about where you need to be cutting tubes. You will have much more control over making sure you don't lose any coolant. At least you would minimse your losses if you do find you lose control once you cut a tube/remove a fitting. And as I mention it should be possible to get nearly all the fluid out through the res by siphoning, you should only need to tilt the case forwards so the coolant runs into the res as you siphon out.

If it was as easy as that don't you think I would have done it without posting? :rolleyes:

The Res does NOT budge from my case. I have tried to slide it back and forward and either way does not come out enough to tip it over without spilling inside my case. So cutting is the only choice I have.

As has already been mentioned in this thread multiple times.....

Bubo · 30 Jan 2012 at 10:26

Bizzare reaction to my suggestion tbh, how am I to know you have already considered siphoning and rejected it? You don't have to slide the res back or forth anyway in order to siphon. Just remove to blanking plates above the res to give you access to the fill port hole, put a tube in, suck out some liquid to start the siphoning process. From your post above I am beginning to think you don't know what siphoning is, but I will assume you do as I don't want to assault your intelligence. Anyway, once siphoning has started just keep tilting the case forward a bit was the liquid leaves the res whilst keeping the level below the fill port so it doesn't spill out from it.

Harpss1ngh · 30 Jan 2012 at 11:14

Bubo said:
Bizzare reaction to my suggestion tbh, how am I to know you have already considered siphoning and rejected it? You don't have to slide the res back or forth anyway in order to siphon. Just remove to blanking plates above the res to give you access to the fill port hole, put a tube in, suck out some liquid to start the siphoning process. From your post above I am beginning to think you don't know what siphoning is, but I will assume you do as I don't want to assault your intelligence. Anyway, once siphoning has started just keep tilting the case forward a bit was the liquid leaves the res whilst keeping the level below the fill port so it doesn't spill out from it.

In my OP I asked if anyone knows whether the fill port is threaded with a G1/4" thread so I can connect a tube with a compression fitting to the fill port as I saw it being done on you tube without it leaking, so I have already questioned siphoning and no one answered this query.

Just simply sticking a tube in without the fitting doesn't provide a watertight seal. Thanks for not "assaulting" (insulting?) my intelligence

Bubo · 30 Jan 2012 at 11:29

Why would you need to use a fitting to siphon out of the fill port? Siphoning would actually be impossible if you did that. So your first post does not have anything to do with siphoning. I am seriously now thinking you don't understand what I am meaning by siphoning. Clue, it is not tipping your case upside down and letting the water out by mavity through a G1/4" fitting with a tube on the end.

Though the fillport on that res has a 20mm fitting for which you can get a g1/4 adaptor so you can do your fitting/case upside down emptying thing which you are describing in your first post. It will take ages to come out mind.

Harpss1ngh · 30 Jan 2012 at 11:41

Bubo said:
Why would you need to use a fitting to siphon out of the fill port? Siphoning would actually be impossible if you did that. So your first post does not have anything to do with siphoning. I am seriously now thinking you don't understand what I am meaning by siphoning. Clue, it is not tipping your case upside down and letting the water out by mavity through a G1/4" fitting with a tube on the end.

I wouldn't know about siphoning then seeing as I fill my car at a petrol station pump, not from other peoples cars and I can't see why else I would need to know about siphoning? :confused:

Sucking a tube to get a mouthful of coolant doesn't sound appealing either, so I'd rather do it my way and cut the tube or if I can screw a fitting to the res and tip it over then even better. Thanks anyway.

Mightycamels · 30 Jan 2012 at 11:57

Danm54 said:
Go to the kitchen and get a clean bowl, big enough to hold a litre or so of water but will still fit under your rad, place under the rad and undo the comp fitting.
Allow water to drain into the bowl and blow the rest out by blowing into the tube you've just disconnected. Funnel it back into the coolant bottle and reuse.

Surely not that difficult to figure out

My first thought too!

Bubo · 30 Jan 2012 at 12:01

Fine. Maybe though you could have held back on the roll eyes and confused smilies before having a go at me for offering what I thought was free adivce, at least until you'd worked out what siphoning was.