Network Rail admits safety breaches over girls' deaths

I suppose the assumption was that the warning lights/sound applied to the train that had just passed, and not that there was another train operating on the line as well. I imagine the noise of the second train was masked by the sound of the first one.

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I'll also add that it was not unusual for more than one train to pass the station in quick succession with the crossing remaining closed to traffic and pedestrians during the gap between trains passing. Anyone who crossed that line regularly would know that. I did. I can only think those two girls knew this too, but chose to ignore the dangers. That decision killed them.

When this used to happen, the lights and sirens would continue to sound, even though an approaching train might not have been immediately apparent. I remember standing there for a couple of minutes once, waiting around for the warnings to stop. It was only after another intercity had flashed through the station, going in the opposite direction, that the crossing was reopened.

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Looking back again at the google image above, the station still has an overhead foot bridge!
 
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People are idiots. Idiots do stupid things, including killing themselves by accident. It really is the company's responsibility to ensure idiots can't kill themselves when using their equipment/facilities/whatever. They didn't do this, and if there was an automatic barrier in place, this probably wouldn't have happened. I can't see it any other way. Yes, they should have been more careful, but they weren't and it's tragic that there wasn't an extra layer of safety in place to prevent this.
 
It really is the company's responsibility to ensure idiots can't kill themselves when using their equipment/facilities/whatever. They didn't do this, and if there was an automatic barrier in place, this probably wouldn't have happened. I can't see it any other way. Yes, they should have been more careful, but they weren't and it's tragic that there wasn't an extra layer of safety in place to prevent this.

Where do you draw the line? Shall we invest in a huge metal cage over every railway line in the country to physically prevent people from going onto the line?

And why not roads? Why are there no barriers on pedestrian crossings? Far more dangerous, those?

Network Rail isn't a typical company. It's effectively a nationalised organisation so you are basically suggesting the taxpayer should pay for automatic self-locking barriers on every single foot crossing in the entire country. And there are THOUSANDS.
 
I'm glad I'm not the only one puzzled how the girls crossed the line at the wrong time due to their own misjudgment yet network rail are somehow at fault.
 
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. It's effectively a nationalised organisation so you are basically suggesting the taxpayer should pay for automatic self-locking barriers on every single foot crossing in the entire country. And there are THOUSANDS.

think news said 6500, down 500 from sometime. Missed most of it.
 
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Network Rail isn't a typical company. It's effectively a nationalised organisation so you are basically suggesting the taxpayer should pay for automatic self-locking barriers on every single foot crossing in the entire country. And there are THOUSANDS.

Didn't Network Rail themselves say that the level crossing in question needed an automatic locking gate prior to these tragic deaths?
 
A risk report highlighted that gates would be a good idea, yes.

But good ideas are weighed up against cost and practicality. It would be a good idea, for example, to limit traffic speed on rural roads to 30mph. It would save countless lives. But the practicality side of sucg a suggestion makes it low priority.
 
People are idiots. Idiots do stupid things, including killing themselves by accident. It really is the company's responsibility to ensure idiots can't kill themselves when using their equipment/facilities/whatever. They didn't do this, and if there was an automatic barrier in place, this probably wouldn't have happened. I can't see it any other way. Yes, they should have been more careful, but they weren't and it's tragic that there wasn't an extra layer of safety in place to prevent this.

If only there was a system in place to warn them of the danger.
 
People are idiots. Idiots do stupid things, including killing themselves by accident. It really is the company's responsibility to ensure idiots can't kill themselves when using their equipment/facilities/whatever. They didn't do this, and if there was an automatic barrier in place, this probably wouldn't have happened. I can't see it any other way. Yes, they should have been more careful, but they weren't and it's tragic that there wasn't an extra layer of safety in place to prevent this.

It's not the company's responsibility at all, at least it shouldn't be. There was more than the bare minimum safety in place. If you're still stupid enough to get yourself plastered on the front of a train, then it's a shame, but you have nobody to blame but yourself.

People need to learn that they are responsible for their own actions. The rest of us can't be around 24/7 to stop them all hurting themselves from their own stupidity.
 
I kid you not, there is a local senior that has a zebra crossing outside the gates and there is a Lollipop man that walks onto it to stop the traffic.
 
I don't understand how Network Rail can be held responsible unless certain individuals within the company have done something specifically wrong. It's very strange.

There must be more to this than has been released.
 
The fact they admitted liability makes me think that there must be more to this than has been reported.

Saying that, it was still the fault of the girls.
 
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