**The Official Nokia Lumia 800 Thread***

Okay so,
my full charge capacity has suddenly dropped to 1380mAh, which I find incredibly annoying as I only get about 14h instead of 1,5-2days of use now. It says 1 day 16h left at full charge, but in reality empties within half a day even if I have it on battery saver for half the day and don't too much with it otherwise. So what the heck do I do now? I updated a couple of days ago, wonder what they did to **** up my battery life??
 
cu3ed said:
LMFAO.......he got FREE video calling and was handed the 800 you say!?!?!?
I cant see any catch there what so ever....hmm...waaaaaait a second....
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Indeed - I think that was a remnant from his old contract. My guess is that it was just a glitch on T-Mobile's website as it does sound a bit good to be true.

He is getting the phone today so we will see how it goes and how his contract gets updated.
 
This post is going to sound odd but the problem from a network point of view is it wasn't good enough. Over Christmas we had 2 long runners, the iPhone (honestly the model number isn't all that important to about 80% of people :) ) and the SGS2. The SGS2 has enjoyed a very very good run because its cheap - Samsung priced it EXTREMELY well to networks/shops who could bulk sell for decent returns with virtually any plan and it's extremely potent when you put it alongside other handsets.

If you go into a shop and put the SGS2 in front of people it sells like you wouldn't believe because the screen is both big and crazy colourful. Combined with the decent deals, decent camera, lightness (seriously, no one cares the back is plastic except you guys :P ) Basically, if you don't want an iPhone or couldn't afford one - you probably opted for an SGS2 this Christmas and this is a fantastic place to be - this is a mindshare winning place. The problem was, Nokia should have been here or at least they wanted to be here but when you slide up the SGS2 to the Lumia problems start appearing which impact the first look.

Out the box, the takeup for WP7 is hampered by the squares/metros huge typeface. A lot of people think it's not as enticing because it looks like it was designed for 7 year olds versus Androids Homescreen/App menu or BB/iOSs App Menu. Yes metro is very nice and all but the initial impact doesn't sell to the mass market, maybe win8 will shift this problem. Before I get people who attempt to moan at me for pointing out UI traits remember that the position I see it from is not the user a single person, but the market, it's a percentage game.

So, we have the Lumia, an SGS2 and probably a BB to decide between and they all share roughly the same price/deal setup, it wasn't ever going to win like this. In my opinion they blew it when they made it the same size as the 4S (remember in a shop you put them all next to each other so size suddenly becomes apparent and the mind naturally compares alike items) and by releasing it so close to xmas but this is just opinion. There's also the issue of pricing, it was priced for mid but they marketed it as high. There isn't much of a market here, people would rather just go higher and be "safe" so to speak or lower and save cash. Midrange smartphones sell OK but the profit is weaker, Nokia did a lot better when they went high price for high end (the entire N series for example) but this had other issues in play - the networks basically forced Nokia to under price it because they knew it was going to be rough launch - no market share, brand loyalty going out the window over the last 3 years, networks are risk adverse.

The register is claiming it got outsold by 100 times to the SGS2 - this is unlikely, it didn't get that smashed, but it wasn't close. BB did well though, good to see the new models selling as well as they did.

Super edit: I really liked mine though, haters be damned. WP7 is just different.
 
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That's what I've always said, a lot of people want an iPhone but cant justify the extra cost of one over a Galaxy S II. It's often more down to budget than choice.

It's a shame to hear this hasn't sold all that well. I'm not too sure about Microsoft's approach really, they seem to be really holding back the manufacturers when it comes to specs and that will put off a lot of the enthusiast community and people who care about camera quality, etc.

That said, I still think it will get there... eventually.
 
Angsteri said:
Okay so,
my full charge capacity has suddenly dropped to 1380mAh, which I find incredibly annoying as I only get about 14h instead of 1,5-2days of use now. It says 1 day 16h left at full charge, but in reality empties within half a day even if I have it on battery saver for half the day and don't too much with it otherwise. So what the heck do I do now? I updated a couple of days ago, wonder what they did to **** up my battery life??
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Have you been using the Nokia charger that came in the box? Contact Nokia Care and they should be able to sort you out.
 
re the long post, that all echos my understanding too. Nokias distribution pricing has always been a bit high (same problem for SE actually) which sometimes strangles the deal where Smasung are happy to throw money at launches.

But to be fair, I doubt anyone expected this to overturn everything that's happened in the last few years, this just puts nokia back on the map and it's a place to build from.

They could probably do with "doing a samsung" and just blitz the market with an option at every price, sure it'll help when the 710 is out tomorrow and then just keep adding more handsets.

I saw with interest that gartner think WP7 will be number 2 in a couple of years, not necessarily nokia but it's encouraging. BB show very few signs of sorting themselves out so with the right investment I'm sure it'll become a 3 horse race.

Source... http://www.dailytech.com/Gartner+Es...be+2+in+Market+Share+By+2015/article21318.htm

You only need some dreadful virus issue on android (which I'm sure will happen eventually) and these more closed and controlled eco systems will start to look a lot more attractive.

I never cared if I could change the icons on my 6310i :)
 
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I would say the interface is actually more designed for grown ups on WP and the opposite on iOS/Android. Nice clean lines, no funny icons, big clear text.

The Lumia 900 is probably more comparable to the GSII due to the similar screen size.

In my view 'lack' of sales is nothing to do with the product at all. WP and the Lumia have recieved very good reviews from the tech world but it takes a lot of time to build up awareness in the consumer market. Most consumers don't really know what a phone OS is - but they do know the words Apple and Android. Windows Phone to most people sounds like Windows on a phone - yuk!

It's very early days for WP and really you should be comparing sales of the Lumia to sales of the first bunch of Android devices to gauge performance rather than to the two leading models already established in the market as brand leaders.
 
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Angsteri said:
Yes, with the nokia charger precisely. But I'll indeed contact nokia care, see what they can do.
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I was the same with mine. Nokia care couldn't really help me with the charging or updating issue, so they've advised me to send mine back for repair/replacement. I hope Nokia are quick as I love this phone!
 
JKD said:
I was the same with mine. Nokia care couldn't really help me with the charging or updating issue, so they've advised me to send mine back for repair/replacement. I hope Nokia are quick as I love this phone!
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By the way, has anyone on here actually managed to get a 1500 mah battery and charge it up to 1500 mah, or am I wasting my time sending it back?
 
Ezyryder said:
Just seen the phone today, it is lovely but why the waste of space, there is a lot of dead-space at the bottom and top of it.
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I really don't like that too, at least it's no where near as bad as the Iphone. I think the rest of the phones design kind of makes up for it though. My Samsung Omnia 7 has virtually no dead space at the top or bottom.

Can't wait to receive my Lumia 800 I won :)
 
I have a sim free cyan and still no update!!!! really getting on my nerves now, struggling to get a days use out of it, looks like its on its way back to Amazon for a refund.
 
How big is the difference between this and the 710? There's talk of Vodafone releasing the Lumia 710 for £150 on PAYG in the next month or so. Really tempted.
 
Got my cyan ordered for delivery tomorrow on the new T Mobile Full Monty plan at £36 pm (2000 mins, unlimited texts, unlimited web, no FUP and tethering / voip included for my MMOs).

They wouldnt even give me £5 a month off, I spoke to two different people and neither could offer it for cheaper according to their management. I didnt bother calling multiple times to try again because I knew it was hopeless trying to get this on 50% discount.

I told them I could get it on the one plan for £29 pm too through 3's CS matching a cashback offer, but they wouldnt reduce it all. It comes up to the same cost as if I had added unlimited texts to my Flext 40 + WnW max plan anyway, so the price is fine, I just really didnt want to go so much over £30 pm.
 
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