Poll: Who do you think will get the fourth champions league spot?

Who do you think will get the fourth Champions League Spot?

  • Arsenal

    Votes: 33 21.0%

  • Chelsea

    Votes: 70 44.6%

  • Liverpool

    Votes: 26 16.6%

  • Newcastle

    Votes: 24 15.3%

  • Manchester Utd

    Votes: 4 2.5%
  • Total voters
    157

No1newts

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Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Newcastle
Man Utd

Can we get a poll for the above please from a helpful don?

I think its safe to say ManU, Citeh and Spurs are in the top 4 now if not knowing their exact finishing positions but who do you think will grab the fourth spot?

I would love to say Newcastle and I think we will get a lot closer than people are expecting us to but I don't think we will have enough legs for it.

Liverpool I think are too inconsistent, they will beat any other top team on their day and then go and lose to Bolton or another lower prem team. This will cost them in the long run.

Arsenal same as Liverpool but also their squad isn't strong enough to cope with any injuries or missing players. They are missing 2-3 players to be a top 4 team again imo.

Which leaves Chelski who I reckon will grab fourth spot. They are rubbish this year compared to other seasons, they are inconsistent compared to other seasons, their best players are not as good as they have been in previous seasons (Cole, Terry, Lampard, Drogba, Cech) but despite that they just seem to grind out results when they need them. They won't impress anyone but can see them grinding their way into fourth spot.

Who do the rest of you fancy?
 
No1newts said:
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Newcastle

Can we get a poll for the above please from a helpful don?

I think its safe to say ManU, Citeh and Spurs are in the top 4 now if not knowing their exact finishing positions but who do you think will grab the fourth spot?
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spurs could quite easily finish 4th, or 5th, maybe even 6th (though i doubt we'd slip to 6th tbh) but it's a bit too early to say spurs have 3rd cemented. massive few weeks coming up for spurs.
i'd have to say chelsea btw.
 
cm1179 said:
spurs could quite easily finish 4th, or 5th, maybe even 6th (though i doubt we'd slip to 6th tbh) but it's a bit too early to say spurs have 3rd cemented. massive few weeks coming up for spurs.
i'd have to say chelsea btw.
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Not saying ManU, Citeh and Spurs are 1,2,3 just that they will be 3 of 4 teams in the spots. Can't see Spurs slipping below 4th though 4th is a possibility.
 
If I were a betting man, I'd be awfully tempted by a punt on Newcastle. I bet they're still the outsiders for it, even now.
 
No1newts said:
Not saying ManU, Citeh and Spurs are 1,2,3 just that they will be 3 of 4 teams in the spots. Can't see Spurs slipping below 4th though 4th is a possibility.
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if newcastle did get into the cl, do you think ashley would invest or simply be happy with the qualifiers for the quick cash in and settle for the europa? i don't know why but i think newcastle could punch above their weight in the cl, especially if you hold onto krul and Ba. i think you would atleast qualify for the group stage.
 
cm1179 said:
if newcastle did get into the cl, do you think ashley would invest or simply be happy with the qualifiers for the quick cash in and settle for the europa? i don't know why but i think newcastle could punch above their weight in the cl, especially if you hold onto krul and Ba. i think you would atleast qualify for the group stage.
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Personal opinion is that Cashley wouldn't change his business model even if we reached the champions league which wouldn't be the worst thing. It has took me a long time to get to this point but I respect (grudgingly) what Cashley is trying to do with the club and I think its a model that one day more and more clubs will have to start following.

He would look at the potential extra income and decide that (for example) this would equal an extra £40mill for the club so there is £20mill spend money and £10mill to sort your wages out and put £10mill aside in case things go breast to the ceiling.

This wouldn't be bad and I have faith enough in our scouting system that we would pick up the right players. We need a squad more than we need to revamp the first team as we have no real back up. A right winger would be great as would another CB the rest would be filling things out.

I like how we are playing and I harbour a sneaky hope we could really push for it but I just see us ultimately falling a little short but if we did make it I think we would reach the group stages without doubt.

As you alluded too our biggest test will not be trying to finish fourth but trying to hold onto our better players in the summer!
 
That's exactly what EVERY team should do, not spend beyond your means, look at lots of other teams that got Champs league football and got too big for their boots instantly. Newcastle are pretty much moving themselves into a position to both make a comfortable profit and be in a much much stronger position for a new shirt and potentially stadium sponsorship deal which will mean yearly income, even though champs league football wouldn't be sustainable.

No point loading on 20-30mil in wages due to the CL, to be out of it next year and the wages still going out.


Anyway, Spurs are likely safe for the simple reason that even if they do screw up a bit....... so will the other 4 and based on well over half a season Spur's consistency is better than the other 5. Spurs WILL dip in form and lose games they shouldn't, and win games they shouldn't also, so will every other team in the league.

Chelsea haven't strengthened and seem to be getting worse under AVB, not better. Arsenal haven't strengthened and as the team gets more frustrated more stupid things will happen, Liverpool haven't strengthened either, their problems are the same and Suarez being "back" well, he wasn't prolific for the first half of the season, no reason to think he would be for the rest of the season either.

Newcastle, have strengthened, are doing very well now and have had Tiote miss quite a few games and have had no striker for quite a few games. Tiote back in not too long and Ba + a potentially very decent new striker.... really of the four they are the only team I see as having strengthened and have the potential to be better than they were before....... doesn't mean they will be though.
 
hate to admit it but I think Liverpool have a really fantastic chance of beating Chelsea to the last CL spot

(cant see why Liverpool are much more inconsistant than Chelsea given the current margin is just a few points after 23 games, as OP claims)

Newcastle have a great chance to be in Europa league I would have thought (5th or 6th right?) , but they need to make a solid break to Arsenal in the next 6-8 games (Arsenal dont deal with pressure well, but their experience of being in the top four may help here if NUFC dont get the gap built soon)
 
Moses said:
IF Newcastle got into the Champions League (/group stages), they'd be mad to splash the cash. Because of European co-efficients, they wouldn't be in one of the top two pots, so would be the third weakest team (at least) in any group. Progressing meaningfully in the competition would be unrealistic.
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Agree. Last thing Cashley would do though so we would be safe.

If Cisse/Ba partnership strikes it off and we keep our first team available would be interesting to see how close we could push things.

Carroll scoring for Pool could be interesting, if hehits form like he had first 6 month in PL with Toon then Pool would be an interesting prospect.
 
Newcastle have the best chance because the other 3 teams look most like messing it up, which is frustrating as Pards really isn't that good a manager, fair play to him for the position the team is in but I don't see him taking the team anywhere in European competition.

Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool are all full of players who are over rated holding back some really talented individuals, pretty much the only thing they all have in common :(
 
Aint gonna be Arsenal, if we do bag 4th spot then it will be nothing short of a miracle tbqh.

I fully expect us to draw or lose against Blackburn this weekend...thats how much faith i have now in Arsenal.

Id put my money on Chelsea getting 4th.
 
I think it's got to be Chelsea come the end of the season.

Newcastle have had a nice season so far but I doubt it'll take them to the 4th spot.

Liverpool will probably come close but fall away in the last few games.
 
FrankJH said:
hate to admit it but I think Liverpool have a really fantastic chance of beating Chelsea to the last CL spot

(cant see why Liverpool are much more inconsistant than Chelsea given the current margin is just a few points after 23 games, as OP claims)

Newcastle have a great chance to be in Europa league I would have thought (5th or 6th right?) , but they need to make a solid break to Arsenal in the next 6-8 games (Arsenal dont deal with pressure well, but their experience of being in the top four may help here if NUFC dont get the gap built soon)
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Why are they less consistent, well, 4 point gap isn't nothing, but that is after a weekend that Chelsea dropped stupid points and Liverpool didn't. THeir form over the past 7 games has been equally crap, 2 wins in the last 7 for both is frankly awful awful form.

9 points for Liverpool in the last 21 available, 10 for chelsea and 12 for Newcastle, and Newcastle were definately the hardest hit by ACN in terms of quality of player lost(liverpool not at all, but obviously Suarez issues).

Thing is Newcastle have Ba coming back, maybe considering the team the most impressive striker this year and they've got Cisse to potentially improve them(over their already better form).

Chelsea have Drogba back but not yet, and he wasn't prolific before, and Liverpool have Suarez coming back but also not remotely prolific.

Overall Chelsea have scored almost 50% more than Liverpool, end of the day goals means points and that has cost Liverpool all season.

Over the course of the season, Chelsea simply have the goals to keep Liverpool out of 4th, but not convinced they'll be able to keep Newcastle back, who have goals. I just can't see where the improvement will come from with Liverpool, beating Wolves and Carroll getting a goal against one of the worst defenses in the league, from what I can tell over the past two months only Wigan have conceded more.

I dunno, Chelsea's scoring for a month, maybe two, has sucked as well. Thing is if Chelsea get back to early season form Liverpool have no chance.... if Liverpool get back to early season form.... there were barely any goals then either.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Why are they less consistent, well, 4 point gap isn't nothing, but that is after a weekend that Chelsea dropped stupid points and Liverpool didn't. THeir form over the past 7 games has been equally crap, 2 wins in the last 7 for both is frankly awful awful form.

9 points for Liverpool in the last 21 available, 10 for chelsea and 12 for Newcastle, and Newcastle were definately the hardest hit by ACN in terms of quality of player lost(liverpool not at all, but obviously Suarez issues).

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4 points may not be nothing, but over 23 games - its not a particularly big difference either

you keep on using the word "equally" which is exactly what Im saying, they ARE pretty much equal - rather than one team being markedly different from the other (which is what the OP suggested)

even counting the last 7 games there is only ONE single point between the teams......or 5% of available points (from your figures above) - thats practically identical lol

and remember Liverpool will have Saurez back (probably one of the best offensive creative talents in the league after Silva) and probably fully fit - so the next seven games as a comparison could easily swing dramatically in Liverpool's favour (I think its fair to expect them to get more points with him in the side than without, even if I dont know who they would have to drop )
 
I'd be more confident of Spurs finishing in the top 4 if we still have a gap to those below us after the next 6 games . We play Liverpool (A), Arsenal (A), Newcastle (H), Man Utd (H) and Chelsea (A) in that time.
 
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