Anybody any good at Latin?

Funnily enough I started a thread the other day about how little I use differential calculus now. I do still use Latin quite a bit.
 
sirichmond said:
Hello,

Our little mtb club has a motto which is "Pain is Glory" now I have used google to convert this to latin and it comes up with "Dolor Est Gloria". So is their anyone out their good at Latin that can confirm this is correct.

Many Thanks
Simon
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It is Dolor Gloria Est.....(as the verb generally comes at the end...Latin has a different word order than English and can get quite complicated as sometimes the verb is not even used at all or the subject comes last and so on) anyway it would literally translate as Pain, Glory is.....a bit Yoda, but correct for classical Latin and would translate as Pain is Glory.

However it would probably be slightly better written as

Dolor Glorificus Est..(or even Gloriam).... although that is translated literally as Pain, Glorious is...rather than Glory, but would be the correct way to say it in Latin depending on the context and would translate in the same way as Pain is Glory, although you would think it is Pain is Glorious...Latin, go figure!

Hope that helps, although I will say that Latin is a total minefield of conflicting rules and one man's opinion will probably differ from another.

I would chose what you feel looks the better wording becasue it is unlikely that anyone will notice any minor discrepancies and as a general rule 'is' when used comes at the end.

Also Dolor is generally Pain as in the grief kind....whereas Poena is pain as in punishment....I am not sure which kind of context you are going for with your motto.

Sort of like this:

Poena Gloriae est......or Punishment (pain) is Glory......or more accurately In Pain is Glory, as the 'in' is inherent in the verb. (you could leave out the 'est' as well, but Poena Gloriae?...)
 
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Castiel said:
It is Dolor Gloria Est.....(as the verb generally comes at the end...Latin has a different word order than English and can get quite complicated as sometimes the verb is not even used at all or the subject comes last and so on) anyway it would literally translate as Pain, Glory is.....a bit Yoda, but correct for classical Latin and would translate as Pain is Glory.

However it would probably be slightly better written as

Dolor Glorificus Est..(or even Gloriam).... although that is translated literally as Pain, Glorious is...rather than Glory, but would be the correct way to say it in Latin depending on the context and would translate in the same way as Pain is Glory, although you would think it is Pain is Glorious...Latin, go figure!

Hope that helps, although I will say that Latin is a total minefield of conflicting rules and one man's opinion will probably differ from another.

I would chose what you feel looks the better wording becasue it is unlikely that anyone will notice any minor discrepancies and as a general rule 'is' when used comes at the end.

Also Dolor is generally Pain as in the grief kind....whereas Poena is pain as in punishment....I am not sure which kind of context you are going for with your motto.

Sort of like this:

Poena Gloriae est......or Punishment (pain) is Glory......or more accurately In Pain is Glory, as the 'in' is inherent in the verb. (you could leave out the 'est' as well, but Poena Gloriae?...)
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Thanks for the comprehensive answer, minefield as I suspected, maybe I should leave the motto in english at least folks will know what it means straight off and save me getting grief of any Latin scholars.
 
Oh wow Caecilius, that brings back some school Latin memories :D.

Caecilius, Quintus, Cerberus, Clemens, Grumio.

Book two had someone called Salvius in it, I can't remember much more than that!
 
I think Caecilius was used a lot in teaching latin because all of his stuff was pretty well preserved in the ruins of Pompeii.
 
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