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Haswell to Launch March - June 2013 but No Ivybridge-E Before 2nd half of 2013

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So does this mean Intel still expect the SB-E chips to out perform vanilla Haswell?

If that's the case IB-E must be shaping up to be something pretty special & still on the 2011 socket mmmm.

It seems to me that if my assumptions are correct SB-E vs Ivybridge vanilla is now a no brainer performance wise.

:)
 
WingZero30 said:
Will Haswell be still a quadcore?
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Still unconfirmed as far as I can tell & nothing mentioned in that article above but the sketchy details online seem to suggest 2-4 cores, whether or not that's just for mobile versions of the Haswell chips I'm unsure.

I think the general expectations of the majority was a shift to 6 core at least but I can't find any info to support that either.
 
Here's a Google translate pigeon English version of the source information which this thread & related article is based it mentions a little more Haswell detail:

Thread Source Article said:
Intel 22nm manufacturing technology The third generation, code-named Ivy Bridge Core processor family, the market in April Intel is prepared to offer, tick-tock business
development model to the next within the
scope of development activities based on
generation continues.

Many previous Ivy are highlighting in our news to Bridge-based processors, architecture fabrication rather than
innovation 22nm production process and
focuses Sandy Bridge technology, the
advantages of Using the architecture of the path of updating Intel to the next step, the Haswell to transition into the architecture.

Similar 3D transistor technology, the 22nm Haswell to use the generation gap significantly updated and new architecture
design will be new features added. Haswell
architecture with Intel, processor improve
performance, overclocking increase in
the capabilities of the processor and fully
integrated voltage regulator has been set
to the design.

Haswell Intel is also a new AVX architecture and advanced AES-NI komutsetleri present
capabilities. Haswell with as well as the
integrated graphics unit OpenCL and DirectX
updated with 11.1 Such as 1.2 will support the new APIs.

The same will now support three different monitors Hawell graphics unit will also auto- Stereoscopic 3D picture support will bring. Haswell will use the LGA1150 platform
series of new generation processors, 1600MHz Offering up to DDR3 memory support and DDR3L dual-channel controller, and will be included 35 Watt to 95 processors, depending on the model Watt thermal design power ranging from with the value will come.

New processors Intel is also the code name for the Lynx Point models in the 8-series
chipset will offer the industry's liking. Well
Haswell-based next-generation CPUs When
will be released. Intel's official lead Haswell based fourth according to the map generation Core processor family, of 2013, the first half, launched in March-June period will have been.
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Seems to suggest a better integrated 3D graphics processor & voltage regulator (presumably this is one of the features which will make Haswell easier to overclock)
 
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Yay, my SB-E rig will be top dog for a little longer than expected :D
I think the quad core 8320 chip on x79 has just got a whole lot more attractive for some people
 
I think the general expectations of the majority was a shift to 6 core at least but I can't find any info to support that either.
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I would imagine it will still be a quad, Intel have never stated that they will move the mainstream to anything more than quad. I would think the main focus for Haswell wil be improving the GPU.
 
Vanilla = Dual/Quad
E = Quad/Hex
EP = Hex/Octo

Would appear to be the core count formula for the foreseeable future.

If Ivy-E doesn't appear till 2nd half of 2013 & has at least an 18 month lifespan the same as Sandy-E then going the enthusiast route won't require a platform upgrade from X79 to Haswell-E untill the beginning of 2015 at the very earliest.

That extra two or three hundred quid investment is all of a sudden starting to make a whole lot of sense if this is right.
 
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edgedemon said:
Yay, my SB-E rig will be top dog for a little longer than expected :D
I think the quad core 8320 chip on x79 has just got a whole lot more attractive for some people
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sorry I don't get your comment ? surely this makes a 3820 on an X79 less attractive ? as you'll have to wait much longer to get an Ivybridge equivalent to those 1155 versions ?
 
I see where you are going, depends on how you look at it, as you could also say that the life of the platform has just been extended by six months and the same potentially with IB-E as well
 
I see where you are coming from too - I suppose on one hand you could say

"extended platform" - on the other

"longer wait"

I suppose it depends on how good the Ivybridge processors are - I'm struggling whether to go 2500k/2600k or 3820 :(
 
Having just faced the whole what do I do bit as well I understand that it is not easy
I had left it too long for my upgrade so I had to replace my entire rig, only the dvd survived.
In some ways that made it easier, as when I priced it up, there wasn't that much difference between a high end Z68 and x79 platform, it came to around 400 quid. As this was my first upgrade in 5yrs, I figured it was worth going for x79 as I then had the option of ivybridge E as a straight cpu swapout.
Quad core SBE complicates things somewhat, the price isn't that much more the i7 2600K, x79 mobo's have dropped down now, can get one for £180, and the 3820 is I think rumoured to be around the 240-250 mark

For a little bit extra now, you have a top end platform, that will stay top end when IB-E comes out as it will be a straight cpu swap.
Ivybridge is expected to be 10-15% better than SB, a lot of the improvements are in the gfx core, so if you are using a gfx card, it doesn't matter too much.
If you are on a budget, just game and surf the web, go for a i5 2600 as that will do you fine
If you have a little bit of cash, get the quad 3820 and x79 as you will have an upgrade path to intels next high end platform which for me was the deciding factor..
 
WingZero30 said:
Will Haswell be still a quadcore?
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Yes, this has been known for a while now:
Detailed Intel Haswell specs revealed
xsistor said:
Haswell may end up having proper GPU power that may make lower end gaming card buyers think twice.
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I agree.

Intel really are serious about improving their previously rather embarrassing integrated graphics performance and they have already made huge leaps; a motivated Intel is a scary prospect for Nvidia and AMD.

Since I'm here I may as well repost this die size comparison pic, apparently it cost someone at Intel his job.

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so i guess this is the decider for me then, so when i build my new pc in the next month or so, if i choose sandy E 2011im going to be able to upgrade to the next gen, so has intel stopped all this multiple socket malarke they did every 12 months then ? im conufused. i thought if i went sandy e in march, they would bring out a new socket by december
 
sonicology said:
Yes, this has been known for a while now:
Detailed Intel Haswell specs revealed

I agree.

Intel really are serious about improving their previously rather embarrassing integrated graphics performance and they have already made huge leaps; a motivated Intel is a scary prospect for Nvidia and AMD.

Since I'm here I may as well repost this die size comparison pic, apparently it cost someone at Intel his job.

haswell2.png
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Please forgive my ignorance but I don't understand why it would cost someone their job - what should've happened?
 
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